Poker discussion thread... - Page 18

Grandad · 23-08-2009, 12:05

I hear the Hansen book is good

I know Caro is the definitive book on the subject but have you found it useful ?

Moley · 23-08-2009, 12:25

The Hansen book is a very good read.

The Caro book is good no doubt, but the photo's are in desperate need of updating as they are black and white and old - so unclear. Combined with a good book on body language and you have a good combination for reading people - just so long as you don't base your whole game around it!

Davey_Pitch · 24-08-2009, 11:47

I've got Sklansky's Theorem of Poker book somewhere, and Harrington's first two books. I quite fancy getting Daniel Negreanu's books on small ball poker as he advocates a more aggressive style than I play and I feel it would be useful to try and add that style to my own.

Moley · 24-08-2009, 13:23

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Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

I've got Sklansky's Theorem of Poker book somewhere, and Harrington's first two books. I quite fancy getting Daniel Negreanu's books on small ball poker as he advocates a more aggressive style than I play and I feel it would be useful to try and add that style to my own.

Small ball is a very specific style of poker that is best suited to people who are very good at playing post flop. The main feature of it is that it is a loose aggressive style that has you going into (statistically) too many pots, but seeing the cheaply by making smaller than usual raises and therefore (hopefully) controlling the size of the pot. You do this mainly from position obviously.

This means that it is much harder for your opponents to put you on a hand, you steal more pots and hopefully when you hit an unlikely monster you get paid off big time.

However the big problem with it is you are basically playing a style that leaves you open to traps yourself - hence the reason you must be a very good post flop player to not lose the shirt from your back.

If you play this style at a table and your table image shows you are obviously playing this style, then you can expect two reactions from your more observant opponents - Firstly you will be re-raised preflop alot more, Secondly the good players will slow play the nuts against you aiming to get all your chips in on the river. If someone else is still in the hand with you on the turn you are very likely holding the second best hand.

It's usually a good idea when other players pick up on what you are doing to tighten up significantly so protecting yourself and hopefully getting a call when you do have the nuts.

Very fun style to play though - if you can handle it.

Davey_Pitch · 24-08-2009, 14:14

Yup, sounds exactly how I thought it would. I tend to play a tight but aggressive game, playing premium hands but raising when I have them, mixing in some slow play and trapping just so my opponents can't get an easy read on me. I think trying small ball in some cheap tournaments would be interesting as playing tight as I do tends to make post-flop play a little easier - I either hit my hand or I don't, making decision making a little easier. Trying different styles can only benefit me as a player I think, even it means being able to spot people playing the same style easier.

Grandad · 14-09-2009, 16:23

Huge game in Nottingham tomorrow at DTD

Line up includes

Doyle Brunson
Phil Hellmuth
Annette Obestrad

and loads of others

couple of weeks ago was looking for a late night tourney on Fremont St, had choice of the $75 at Binions or the $60 at the Nugget

Chose Binions and heard next morning that loads of the pros had been out on the beer and turned up to play the Nugget $60 game

missed out on playing with the likes of Hellmuth,Ivey, Gavin Smith and about 20 others :mad:

had a shocker in Vegas, cashed 1 touney in 2 weeks

TBH all the tourmeys under about $150 are a joke out there, off to Atlantic City in Novemeber, poker is loads better there

Grandad · 14-01-2010, 19:10

May not mean a lot to the non poker folks but I was playing Daniel Negreanu in an online cash game last night

By some way the biggest name I have ever played against

Haly · 14-01-2010, 19:15

Even I know that name

Nice one

Grandad · 14-01-2010, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Haly

Even I know that name

well that I didn't expect

Nutcase · 16-01-2010, 13:46

Never heard of him

Vut more importantly, did you win?

24-08-2009, 11:47	#173
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	I've got Sklansky's Theorem of Poker book somewhere, and Harrington's first two books. I quite fancy getting Daniel Negreanu's books on small ball poker as he advocates a more aggressive style than I play and I feel it would be useful to try and add that style to my own. __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

24-08-2009, 14:14	#175
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	Yup, sounds exactly how I thought it would. I tend to play a tight but aggressive game, playing premium hands but raising when I have them, mixing in some slow play and trapping just so my opponents can't get an easy read on me. I think trying small ball in some cheap tournaments would be interesting as playing tight as I do tends to make post-flop play a little easier - I either hit my hand or I don't, making decision making a little easier. Trying different styles can only benefit me as a player I think, even it means being able to spot people playing the same style easier. __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

14-01-2010, 19:15	#178
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Even I know that name Nice one __________________ Halycopter

23-08-2009, 12:05	#171
Grandad Old Git Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,016	I hear the Hansen book is good I know Caro is the definitive book on the subject but have you found it useful ?

23-08-2009, 12:25	#172
Moley Columbian Coffee Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 57	The Hansen book is a very good read. The Caro book is good no doubt, but the photo's are in desperate need of updating as they are black and white and old - so unclear. Combined with a good book on body language and you have a good combination for reading people - just so long as you don't base your whole game around it!

14-09-2009, 16:23	#176
Grandad Old Git Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,016	Huge game in Nottingham tomorrow at DTD Line up includes Doyle Brunson Phil Hellmuth Annette Obestrad and loads of others couple of weeks ago was looking for a late night tourney on Fremont St, had choice of the $75 at Binions or the $60 at the Nugget Chose Binions and heard next morning that loads of the pros had been out on the beer and turned up to play the Nugget $60 game missed out on playing with the likes of Hellmuth,Ivey, Gavin Smith and about 20 others :mad: had a shocker in Vegas, cashed 1 touney in 2 weeks TBH all the tourmeys under about $150 are a joke out there, off to Atlantic City in Novemeber, poker is loads better there

14-01-2010, 19:10	#177
Grandad Old Git Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,016	May not mean a lot to the non poker folks but I was playing Daniel Negreanu in an online cash game last night By some way the biggest name I have ever played against

16-01-2010, 13:46	#180
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Never heard of him Vut more importantly, did you win?