I want to go racing... Help needed - Page 2

Darryn · 14-05-2009, 23:56

Local track, i havent got one really.

3Sisters (45miles) is my closest, but its too short/twisty more suited to bikes and karts.
Croft (60miles), but its not running many trackdays anymore due to noise issues.
Elvington airfield (70miles) Been had fun, but airfields arent a real testing experience.
Oulton Park (75miles) the other place ive been, great day out.. Suppose i wouldnt mind a few more days here.

Ill follow the advice so far, get more days booked at Oulton Park, get some recording gear rigged up and stick to trackdays until i have decided what to look for in terms of a proper RWD track toy.

Justsomebloke · 14-05-2009, 23:59

Move to Hinckley, We have Mallory 5 mins & Donnington 35 mins. House prices are pretty damn sweet an all, Right that's the Answer, Everybody from the Interwebz moves to Hinckley & we all buy off each others businesses & attend each others partys.

Flibster · 15-05-2009, 00:00

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Originally Posted by Darryn

Maybe i should save the cash instead. I want to stick to a single car solution for both track and daily drive. Im thinking Elise or S2000, ive test driven both and preferred the S2000 power delivery, but, the Elise would probably more fun on track. Unfortunately due to where i live a Westfield/Caterham is out of the question, it would attract too much un-wanted attention from the local low-life.

Really don't use your daily drivers as a track car. I've had to do that on a couple of occasions with works Elises and track days really add quickly to wear - ended up having the daily driver and the track prepped cars at work. Especially as at some point you will break it at the track, or in my case lump them into concrete or end up on their roofs... When things go wrong, they can go wrong very quickly indeed.

Seriously consider getting a cheap rwd car to learn how to drive it properly.

My first true track only car was a very nasty Porsche 944. Bodywork was painted in hammerite I believe - mecahnicals were essentially sound though. Plus I didn't car what it was like on the inside as it was stripped bare.

Paid £2500 and after 2 years of being thrashed, sold it for spares at £2000

However, 6 sets of tyres in 2 years, roughly the same (probably higher though) in brake pads, oil changes before every day on track amongst other spares made it not a cheap proposition.

Darryn · 15-05-2009, 00:03

Hmm.... I believe there are internal Vacancies at Ansty right now... thats not far away at all.

Thanks Mr Flibster, i suppose at only a couple of grand a cheap RWD car would also be relatively disposable...

My dad is retired now, and has all the gear and garage to work on the car. I might put it too him that i buy a car, he insures it in his name with me as a named driver, stick it in his garage, we both work on it and we both us it on track days... Im sure he would be up for that.

Something like an Old Porsche, TVR, MR2 or 200SX would be fun to play with.

kaiowas · 15-05-2009, 08:41

Surprised that you're saying insurance for a second car is an issue whilst also talking about supercharging the Civic. I'd have thought the insurance hike for the SC would almost pay to insure a cheap track car on limited mileage.

CaptRugWash · 15-05-2009, 21:04

'Shakes head'. Racing in an MR2 is pathetic, it's a hair dressers car for christ sake!

Get on then!

Flibster · 15-05-2009, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Darryn

Something like an Old Porsche, TVR, MR2 or 200SX would be fun to play with.

How much spare time do you have?
An old TVR would take up most of it in pieces on your drive.

Darryn · 15-05-2009, 23:10

As for spare time, i work 37hr afternoon shifts so get every weekend and all mornings to pursue hobbies. As i said above, my dad is retired now and ive spoken to him today, he is more interested than i expected and offered to go halves on the project, as it appears he has always wanted to get on track...

never knew that before today.

Having him onboard will help a lot, because he has a lot of welding experience, all the workshop gear and a dolly. Sharing the driving with him might get annoying, but, hes old (55) so he wont have the stamina

Im going to see him tomorrow and thrash out some ideas, initially we are both interested in Toyotas, we both prefer the look of the mk2 and a quick hunt shows many cheap examples...
300bhp tubby, t-bar, only 11yo

Looking now, it makes much more sense going down this route than spending more on my CTR.

Zirax · 15-05-2009, 23:33

Yep sounds like a good idea. With him on board having the tools it'll save a fortune (I know as I had to buy them all). Driving wise there will be more than enough time for both. I share my car in the sprint series and have no issues. I think you'll be surprised how much stamina your old man will have when he starts getting the back end out

That being said, mine nearly filled his pants when the back stepped out off the roundabout (his pug 309 derv don't do that)

For track work, forget the t-bar its also
"gorgeous lamborghini purple"
This gives a strong indication of what persuation you need to be to drive this thing

T-bar's are also out as in sprinting / track days they make you take the glass out. If its cold and raining ..... tough. Sunroof or tin-top if they did them. Again as your dad is handy with a welder, take out the sunroof and weld in a plate.

vix · 16-05-2009, 00:13

Get in there Darryn. I expect to see you in the 2010 Toyota Sprint Series, and hope you can make a couple of events this year if you get a car sorted

By the way Matt, pics are up from Barkston. Who went off roading?

14-05-2009, 23:56	#11
Darryn Loves his cars more than his friends Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 108	Local track, i havent got one really. 3Sisters (45miles) is my closest, but its too short/twisty more suited to bikes and karts. Croft (60miles), but its not running many trackdays anymore due to noise issues. Elvington airfield (70miles) Been had fun, but airfields arent a real testing experience. Oulton Park (75miles) the other place ive been, great day out.. Suppose i wouldnt mind a few more days here. Ill follow the advice so far, get more days booked at Oulton Park, get some recording gear rigged up and stick to trackdays until i have decided what to look for in terms of a proper RWD track toy. __________________ My Flickr

14-05-2009, 23:59	#12
Justsomebloke The Night Worker Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,228	Move to Hinckley, We have Mallory 5 mins & Donnington 35 mins. House prices are pretty damn sweet an all, Right that's the Answer, Everybody from the Interwebz moves to Hinckley & we all buy off each others businesses & attend each others partys. __________________

15-05-2009, 00:03	#14
Darryn Loves his cars more than his friends Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 108	Hmm.... I believe there are internal Vacancies at Ansty right now... thats not far away at all. Thanks Mr Flibster, i suppose at only a couple of grand a cheap RWD car would also be relatively disposable... My dad is retired now, and has all the gear and garage to work on the car. I might put it too him that i buy a car, he insures it in his name with me as a named driver, stick it in his garage, we both work on it and we both us it on track days... Im sure he would be up for that. Something like an Old Porsche, TVR, MR2 or 200SX would be fun to play with. __________________ My Flickr Last edited by Darryn; 15-05-2009 at 00:14.

15-05-2009, 08:41	#15
kaiowas The Stig Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fightertown USA Posts: 1,458	Surprised that you're saying insurance for a second car is an issue whilst also talking about supercharging the Civic. I'd have thought the insurance hike for the SC would almost pay to insure a cheap track car on limited mileage. __________________ Anal Fish Porn

15-05-2009, 21:04	#16
CaptRugWash Columbian Coffee Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On tour, washing rugs. Cumming to a rug near you! Posts: 61	'Shakes head'. Racing in an MR2 is pathetic, it's a hair dressers car for christ sake! Get on then! __________________

15-05-2009, 23:10	#18
Darryn Loves his cars more than his friends Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Colne, Lancashire Posts: 108	As for spare time, i work 37hr afternoon shifts so get every weekend and all mornings to pursue hobbies. As i said above, my dad is retired now and ive spoken to him today, he is more interested than i expected and offered to go halves on the project, as it appears he has always wanted to get on track... never knew that before today. Having him onboard will help a lot, because he has a lot of welding experience, all the workshop gear and a dolly. Sharing the driving with him might get annoying, but, hes old (55) so he wont have the stamina Im going to see him tomorrow and thrash out some ideas, initially we are both interested in Toyotas, we both prefer the look of the mk2 and a quick hunt shows many cheap examples... 300bhp tubby, t-bar, only 11yo Looking now, it makes much more sense going down this route than spending more on my CTR. __________________ My Flickr

15-05-2009, 23:33	#19
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	Yep sounds like a good idea. With him on board having the tools it'll save a fortune (I know as I had to buy them all). Driving wise there will be more than enough time for both. I share my car in the sprint series and have no issues. I think you'll be surprised how much stamina your old man will have when he starts getting the back end out That being said, mine nearly filled his pants when the back stepped out off the roundabout (his pug 309 derv don't do that) For track work, forget the t-bar its also "gorgeous lamborghini purple" This gives a strong indication of what persuation you need to be to drive this thing T-bar's are also out as in sprinting / track days they make you take the glass out. If its cold and raining ..... tough. Sunroof or tin-top if they did them. Again as your dad is handy with a welder, take out the sunroof and weld in a plate.

16-05-2009, 00:13	#20
vix Penelope Pitstop Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,426	Get in there Darryn. I expect to see you in the 2010 Toyota Sprint Series, and hope you can make a couple of events this year if you get a car sorted By the way Matt, pics are up from Barkston. Who went off roading? __________________