Broadband without a phoneline - Page 2

Mark · 20-05-2009, 20:19

No problem, sorry for getting geeky on you. Can I just confirm it's the connection issue you need sorting then.

Knipples · 20-05-2009, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Mark

No problem, sorry for getting geeky on you. Can I just confirm it's the connection issue you need sorting then.

I want to be able to keep downloading the amount I do now. I presume the speed isnt an issue because they have cable. I dont want them harassing me because they end up getting snotty letters due to me upping their bandwidth suddenly, and I want to be able to sit in my bedroom and use my computer in there (where there is no phone line)

Haly · 20-05-2009, 20:27

How much do you tend to download Knip? And do you know what speed they're on at the moment?
I only ask as we've never received a complaint letter despite me often downloading quite large amounts per month. We started on 1mb but since then they've upgraded us for free to about 10mb now for the same cost, but still never had a problem

Knipples · 20-05-2009, 20:31

Its not loads and loads, I just worry virgin might object if the household suddenly goes from pretty much no downloading (they only really use it for web browsing - I doubt they would know how to borrow an album or a film for example) to me downloading probably about 5 gigs worth of stuff a month.
I download songs pretty much weekly, and about an album a month, and half a dozen films/tv progs from my newsgroup. (I dont know what the speed is sorry)

Oooooh thats another question, is my newgroup account linked to my IP address, and will I need to do anything when my IP address changes to ensure that all runs smoothly?

Mark · 20-05-2009, 20:33

Right, OK then, both issues.

1) You need a wireless router, but not one that plugs in to your phone line (which I'd assume is what you have now). It sounds like your rents already have one, but if not, that's what is needed. It'll probably say Cable in the name, or at least it won't say DSL/ADSL.

If you parents already have one, you're done and can skip this part. If not, when you've got one, power off the Virgin box, connect the router into the back, power back on. You'll need a Virgin expert to confirm that this is all that it needs because I've never been on a cable network.

As for the bandwidth. Virgin don't generally send snotty letters these days. Instead, they cap bandwidth.

Do you know how much bandwidth you use (roughly)? Some ISPs provide this, or you may need software to tell you. Ask your parents what bandwidth package they're on, and then look at the table here and see how they compare:

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html

If you go over the 'Threshold' at the times indicated, your connection will slow down (by the amount 'Throttled'). If you do that a lot, the best choice is to upgrade. I doubt Virgin will complain unless you go over the Threshold a lot.

Belmit · 20-05-2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Mark

sorry for getting geeky on you

I find you can often just wipe it off with no ill effects.

Haly · 20-05-2009, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knipples

Its not loads and loads, I just worry virgin might object if the household suddenly goes from pretty much no downloading (they only really use it for web browsing - I doubt they would know how to borrow an album or a film for example) to me downloading probably about 5 gigs worth of stuff a month.
I download songs pretty much weekly, and about an album a month, and half a dozen films/tv progs from my newsgroup. (I dont know what the speed is sorry)

Oooooh thats another question, is my newgroup account linked to my IP address, and will I need to do anything when my IP address changes to ensure that all runs smoothly?

Can't see it being a problem. When I moved back from Stafford it would have changed quite drastically and never had a letter

And that would be from regular net browsing to probably 20-25gb a month at the time!

Newsgroup access won't be affected (assuming it's not your ISP newsgroup account, I'm guessing it's easynews or something) at all

Knipples · 20-05-2009, 20:39

Yes its an Easynews account Jen. Thanks for clearing that up.

Thankyou Mark, understand it all now.

So theres nothing I can get or do that would allow me to have my own internet access within the house, short of buying a dongle and doing it that way?

NokkonWud · 20-05-2009, 20:39

You're worrying much more than is necessary. If they're already wireless then there is no issue, your PC will pick it up and connect. Nothing else needs doing.

Virgin won't worry about a spike in the downloads, they expect downloads on broadband. When I was with Virgin I never had a single problem with them contacting me and I would sometimes download close to 100gb in a month.

The only issue you may incur is if they are capped, in which case, contact Virgin, ask for a better package and it will all be done instantly for you for a little extra money, which you can cover.

Knipples · 20-05-2009, 20:40

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Originally Posted by NokkonWud

You're worrying much more than is necessary.

Im sure I am, it just seems to be something I do about everything lately, probably due to the complete instability in my life right now, but thats another story.

20-05-2009, 20:27	#13
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	How much do you tend to download Knip? And do you know what speed they're on at the moment? I only ask as we've never received a complaint letter despite me often downloading quite large amounts per month. We started on 1mb but since then they've upgraded us for free to about 10mb now for the same cost, but still never had a problem __________________ Halycopter

20-05-2009, 20:33	#15
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Right, OK then, both issues. 1) You need a wireless router, but not one that plugs in to your phone line (which I'd assume is what you have now). It sounds like your rents already have one, but if not, that's what is needed. It'll probably say Cable in the name, or at least it won't say DSL/ADSL. If you parents already have one, you're done and can skip this part. If not, when you've got one, power off the Virgin box, connect the router into the back, power back on. You'll need a Virgin expert to confirm that this is all that it needs because I've never been on a cable network. As for the bandwidth. Virgin don't generally send snotty letters these days. Instead, they cap bandwidth. Do you know how much bandwidth you use (roughly)? Some ISPs provide this, or you may need software to tell you. Ask your parents what bandwidth package they're on, and then look at the table here and see how they compare: http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...t/traffic.html If you go over the 'Threshold' at the times indicated, your connection will slow down (by the amount 'Throttled'). If you do that a lot, the best choice is to upgrade. I doubt Virgin will complain unless you go over the Threshold a lot. Last edited by Mark; 20-05-2009 at 20:36.

20-05-2009, 20:39	#19
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	You're worrying much more than is necessary. If they're already wireless then there is no issue, your PC will pick it up and connect. Nothing else needs doing. Virgin won't worry about a spike in the downloads, they expect downloads on broadband. When I was with Virgin I never had a single problem with them contacting me and I would sometimes download close to 100gb in a month. The only issue you may incur is if they are capped, in which case, contact Virgin, ask for a better package and it will all be done instantly for you for a little extra money, which you can cover. __________________

20-05-2009, 20:19	#11
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	No problem, sorry for getting geeky on you. Can I just confirm it's the connection issue you need sorting then.