Looking for a new router - Page 2

Burble · 24-09-2006, 18:32

It isn't firmware when talking about Cisco routers. As far as Cisco routers are concerned firmware is the bootstrap (think of it as the BIOS of a PC) but the actual bit you mess about with, the operating system is called IOS. Cisco IOS's are easy to obtain if you happen to know someone with a SmartNet account

My preference is always Cisco kit, as I said before I'm a huge fan of Cisco stuff but it can be a pig to configure if you don't know how way around the command line.

CliffyG · 04-11-2006, 09:59

I'm going to be ordering one of these in the next day or so:

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...ShopGroupID=78

Anyone know somewhete i can get a better price? No idea where i found one for £190 in my original post.

Burble · 04-11-2006, 11:06

Good choice. You'll need a couple of things to get this beast up and running easier.

- A TFTP server, used for getting IOS's to the router, and config backups from it. Have a look for the Solarwinds one. I can send it to you if you can't find it.

- A decent terminal emulation program. Unless you do everything through the web interface (called the SDM, security device manager) you'll need to connect either with the console cable (over a serial link) or by telnet/ssh. PuTTY is a good choice for telnet and ssh. As for serial, you could use hyperterminal but I use SecureCRT.

Give me a shout if you need a new IOS - I've got a SmartNet account so I can download anything I like from cisco.com.

If you've got the time, try to learn the command line. The SDM will get you a working config but I personally don't like some of the commands it uses.

Desmo · 04-11-2006, 12:08

Is there any need for this in the home market? (I'm assuming it's for home).
I reaaly can't see what it would offer above a £100 router from Netgear or the like.

CliffyG · 04-11-2006, 12:08

I have a TFTP server and Putty downloaded already. I will defo give you a shout about the IOS when it arrives. Part of the reason for me getting this is to learn a bit of cisco so i fully intend to do as much through the command line as possible

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Burble · 04-11-2006, 12:14

Just so you can work out how current your IOS is, the newest IOS for an 857 is 12.4.9T1, dated 5th September 2006.

CliffyG · 08-11-2006, 22:26

It arrived today, as expected i am having problems lol. The first was due to a dodgy connection between my current adsl cable and the cisco which took me a while to figure out. I'm now at the point that i cant get an ip address no matter which settings i try (both types of ppoa and all relevant ways of aquiring an ip, i dont have the subnet to enter a static)

My current IOS is 12.4(6)T5 if that means anything to you.

Daz · 08-11-2006, 22:39

Are you sure the box is sync'ing? Before trying to bring the PPP up anyway. Post your config dude, assuming you're using SDM, you can get it from one of the drop downs at the top, I forget which.

CliffyG · 08-11-2006, 22:48

To be honest i'm not sure what it's doing lol. Here's the config. All im doing at the moment is purely trying to get the adsl and wireless up and running so i can then fiddle at my leisure.

!This is the running config of the router: 10.10.10.254
!----------------------------------------------------------------------------
!version 12.4
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
no service password-encryption
!
hostname yourname
!
boot-start-marker
boot-end-marker
!
logging buffered 51200 warnings
!
no aaa new-model
!
resource policy
!
clock timezone PCTime 0
clock summer-time PCTime date Mar 30 2003 1:00 Oct 26 2003 2:00
!
!
ip cef
ip domain name yourdomain.com
ip name-server 194.106.56.6
ip name-server 194.106.33.42
!
!
!
!
interface ATM0
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0.5 point-to-point
no snmp trap link-status
pvc 0/38
encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer
dialer pool-member 1
!
!
interface FastEthernet0
!
interface FastEthernet1
!
interface FastEthernet2
!
interface FastEthernet3
!
interface Dot11Radio0
no ip address
shutdown
speed basic-1.0 basic-2.0 basic-5.5 6.0 9.0 basic-11.0 12.0 18.0 24.0 36.0 48.0 54.0
station-role root
!
interface Vlan1
description $ETH-SW-LAUNCH$$INTF-INFO-HWIC 4ESW$
ip address 10.10.10.254 255.255.255.0
ip nat inside
ip virtual-reassembly
!
interface Dialer0
ip address negotiated
ip nat outside
ip virtual-reassembly
encapsulation ppp
dialer pool 1
dialer-group 1
no cdp enable
ppp authentication chap pap callin
ppp chap hostname ADSL01954715235@f2s.gw4
ppp chap password 0 3nvha2ca
ppp pap sent-username ADSL01954715235@f2s.gw4 password 0 3nvha2ca
!
!
ip http server
ip http authentication local
ip http secure-server
ip http timeout-policy idle 60 life 86400 requests 10000
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
no cdp run
!
control-plane
!
banner login ^C
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cisco Router and Security Device Manager (SDM) is installed on this device.
This feature requires the one-time use of the username "cisco"
with the password "cisco". The default username and password have a privilege level of 15.

Please change these publicly known initial credentials using SDM or the IOS CLI.
Here are the Cisco IOS commands.

username <myuser> privilege 15 secret 0 <mypassword>
no username cisco

Replace <myuser> and <mypassword> with the username and password you want to use.

For more information about SDM please follow the instructions in the QUICK START
GUIDE for your router or go to http://www.cisco.com/go/sdm
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
^C
!
line con 0
login local
no modem enable
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
privilege level 15
login local
transport input telnet ssh
!
scheduler max-task-time 5000
end

Daz · 08-11-2006, 22:56

Telnet to the router and do 'show int atm0' to make sure that's ok (ATM0 is up, line protocol is up). Try changing the relevent bits to this below:

Code:

interface ATM0
 no ip address
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 0/38
 encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer
 dialer pool-member 1
 dsl operating-mode auto

Code:

interface Dialer1
 ip address negotiated (<- or the actual IP address and mask if you know it)
 ip nat outside
 ip virtual-reassembly
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool 1
 ppp chap hostname ADSL01954715235@f2s.gw4
 ppp chap password 0 3nvha2ca

Think that's right. Off the top of my head configs aren't always 100% accurate. Dont think you should need to declare that 0.5 sub-interface either.

Man, I forgot how much bloat SDM adds to a config :/

04-11-2006, 09:59	#12
CliffyG Vodka Martini Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lower Cambourne Posts: 576	I'm going to be ordering one of these in the next day or so: http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...ShopGroupID=78 Anyone know somewhete i can get a better price? No idea where i found one for £190 in my original post. __________________ Last edited by CliffyG; 04-11-2006 at 10:02.

04-11-2006, 12:08	#14
Desmo The Last Airbender Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pigmopad Posts: 11,915	Is there any need for this in the home market? (I'm assuming it's for home). I reaaly can't see what it would offer above a £100 router from Netgear or the like. __________________

04-11-2006, 12:08	#15
CliffyG Vodka Martini Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lower Cambourne Posts: 576	I have a TFTP server and Putty downloaded already. I will defo give you a shout about the IOS when it arrives. Part of the reason for me getting this is to learn a bit of cisco so i fully intend to do as much through the command line as possible . __________________

08-11-2006, 22:26	#17
CliffyG Vodka Martini Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lower Cambourne Posts: 576	It arrived today, as expected i am having problems lol. The first was due to a dodgy connection between my current adsl cable and the cisco which took me a while to figure out. I'm now at the point that i cant get an ip address no matter which settings i try (both types of ppoa and all relevant ways of aquiring an ip, i dont have the subnet to enter a static) My current IOS is 12.4(6)T5 if that means anything to you. __________________

08-11-2006, 22:39	#18
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Are you sure the box is sync'ing? Before trying to bring the PPP up anyway. Post your config dude, assuming you're using SDM, you can get it from one of the drop downs at the top, I forget which. __________________ apt-get moo

24-09-2006, 18:32	#11
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	It isn't firmware when talking about Cisco routers. As far as Cisco routers are concerned firmware is the bootstrap (think of it as the BIOS of a PC) but the actual bit you mess about with, the operating system is called IOS. Cisco IOS's are easy to obtain if you happen to know someone with a SmartNet account My preference is always Cisco kit, as I said before I'm a huge fan of Cisco stuff but it can be a pig to configure if you don't know how way around the command line.

04-11-2006, 11:06	#13
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	Good choice. You'll need a couple of things to get this beast up and running easier. - A TFTP server, used for getting IOS's to the router, and config backups from it. Have a look for the Solarwinds one. I can send it to you if you can't find it. - A decent terminal emulation program. Unless you do everything through the web interface (called the SDM, security device manager) you'll need to connect either with the console cable (over a serial link) or by telnet/ssh. PuTTY is a good choice for telnet and ssh. As for serial, you could use hyperterminal but I use SecureCRT. Give me a shout if you need a new IOS - I've got a SmartNet account so I can download anything I like from cisco.com. If you've got the time, try to learn the command line. The SDM will get you a working config but I personally don't like some of the commands it uses.

04-11-2006, 12:14	#16
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	Just so you can work out how current your IOS is, the newest IOS for an 857 is 12.4.9T1, dated 5th September 2006.

08-11-2006, 22:48	#19
CliffyG Vodka Martini Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lower Cambourne Posts: 576	To be honest i'm not sure what it's doing lol. Here's the config. All im doing at the moment is purely trying to get the adsl and wireless up and running so i can then fiddle at my leisure. !This is the running config of the router: 10.10.10.254 !---------------------------------------------------------------------------- !version 12.4 no service pad service timestamps debug datetime msec service timestamps log datetime msec no service password-encryption ! hostname yourname ! boot-start-marker boot-end-marker ! logging buffered 51200 warnings ! no aaa new-model ! resource policy ! clock timezone PCTime 0 clock summer-time PCTime date Mar 30 2003 1:00 Oct 26 2003 2:00 ! ! ip cef ip domain name yourdomain.com ip name-server 194.106.56.6 ip name-server 194.106.33.42 ! ! ! ! interface ATM0 no ip address no atm ilmi-keepalive dsl operating-mode auto ! interface ATM0.5 point-to-point no snmp trap link-status pvc 0/38 encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer dialer pool-member 1 ! ! interface FastEthernet0 ! interface FastEthernet1 ! interface FastEthernet2 ! interface FastEthernet3 ! interface Dot11Radio0 no ip address shutdown speed basic-1.0 basic-2.0 basic-5.5 6.0 9.0 basic-11.0 12.0 18.0 24.0 36.0 48.0 54.0 station-role root ! interface Vlan1 description $ETH-SW-LAUNCH$$INTF-INFO-HWIC 4ESW$ ip address 10.10.10.254 255.255.255.0 ip nat inside ip virtual-reassembly ! interface Dialer0 ip address negotiated ip nat outside ip virtual-reassembly encapsulation ppp dialer pool 1 dialer-group 1 no cdp enable ppp authentication chap pap callin ppp chap hostname ADSL01954715235@f2s.gw4 ppp chap password 0 3nvha2ca ppp pap sent-username ADSL01954715235@f2s.gw4 password 0 3nvha2ca ! ! ip http server ip http authentication local ip http secure-server ip http timeout-policy idle 60 life 86400 requests 10000 ! dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit no cdp run ! control-plane ! banner login ^C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Cisco Router and Security Device Manager (SDM) is installed on this device. This feature requires the one-time use of the username "cisco" with the password "cisco". The default username and password have a privilege level of 15. Please change these publicly known initial credentials using SDM or the IOS CLI. Here are the Cisco IOS commands. username <myuser> privilege 15 secret 0 <mypassword> no username cisco Replace <myuser> and <mypassword> with the username and password you want to use. For more information about SDM please follow the instructions in the QUICK START GUIDE for your router or go to http://www.cisco.com/go/sdm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ^C ! line con 0 login local no modem enable line aux 0 line vty 0 4 privilege level 15 login local transport input telnet ssh ! scheduler max-task-time 5000 end __________________

08-11-2006, 22:56	#20
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	Telnet to the router and do 'show int atm0' to make sure that's ok (ATM0 is up, line protocol is up). Try changing the relevent bits to this below: Code: interface ATM0 no ip address no atm ilmi-keepalive pvc 0/38 encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer dialer pool-member 1 dsl operating-mode auto Code: interface Dialer1 ip address negotiated (<- or the actual IP address and mask if you know it) ip nat outside ip virtual-reassembly encapsulation ppp dialer pool 1 ppp chap hostname ADSL01954715235@f2s.gw4 ppp chap password 0 3nvha2ca Think that's right. Off the top of my head configs aren't always 100% accurate. Dont think you should need to declare that 0.5 sub-interface either. Man, I forgot how much bloat SDM adds to a config :/ __________________ apt-get moo