RAGGGGggeeee!!!!!

[SidewinderINC]

Originally Posted by Takhisis

As an aside Rage got the number 1 with 500k sold - didn't it use to be millions sold to get to number 1?

From the BBC article that's just popped up.

The last big Christmas battle on a similar scale was between the Spice Girls' Goodbye and South Park character Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls in 1998. The Spice Girls won with 380,000 to their rival's 375,000.

I was one of the childish people too, for all the reasons mentioned above. I couldn't care less about how much money sony have made out of it.

[Del Lardo]

Originally Posted by Stan_Lite

What's the difference. I can't see any. Either a manufactured act being at #1 or a mediocre minor hit from the 90s being #1 simply because some malcontent chose it at random and declared it as an alternative.

To my thinking, probably 90% of the people who bought the X Factor single bought it because they like it and 90% of the people who bought the "alternative" single bought it as a protest. How many of the people who bought the RATM single would have bought it if it hadn't been the "protest" song?

I couldn't care less but, if pushed I would say that I'd rather the #1 song was a song that people bought because they like it rather than because they think they're making a statement.

For the last few years X-Factor has been guaranteed a number 1 because there has been no viable alternative or effectively a 'No' vote. I honestly despise X-Factor because of the generic bland crap that it produces (I am happy to admit that some of the singers have talent but the songs they are gives are gubbins) and as a result I was wanted to hand over my 79p so a song that I prefer and had a realistic chance of getting to number 1 could beat it.

You didn't like either so you voted with your wallet and didn't buy either. I voted with my wallet and purchased the song that I liked. Isn't free choice a wonderful thing

[Feek]

Originally Posted by Stan_Lite

How many of the people who bought the RATM single would have bought it if it hadn't been the "protest" song?

I wouldn't have done because I already own the album it's from. I haven't bought a single for years but I like the tune and I don't have a problem with helping to stick one to Simon Cowell which is why I bought it again for the princely sum of 29p.

[petemc]

Shelter have been given nearly £70,000 due to the efforts by us RATM fans. Thats the difference. Real music won the day and the profits went to a good cause. Didn't hear Cowell offering to donate his profits to Shelter.

[Jingo]

It's nothing to do with Sony, record labels or individuals... it's about having a decent bit of music occupying the #1 spot and not the recent 'guaranteed assumption' of an x-factor winner taking the christmas spot.

In addition - it's a 'power to the people' type story which gives many a great feeling of satisfaction as well as raising many many thousands of pounds to a worthy charity this time of year WIN!

[Nutcase]

It's a victory for real music and real musicians. I missed exactly why the song was chosen, but presumably because of the "**** you I won't do (buy) what you tell me" lyric. Although Em pointed out people were buying RATM because people told them to so a tad ironic there

29p well spent IMO, and with a bit of (rose tinted) luck hopefully it will be the beginning of the end of tat like x factor

[BBx]

Originally Posted by Feek

LMF and I just grooved to a cover of Killing In The Name on Guitar Hero

I only know of this song because of GH

And the band played it on friday night

Poor Joe

BB x

[Mark]

I haven't heard either song, so it would be unfair of me to critique either.

However, no offence intended, the phrase 'so what' crossed my mind. Do the charts really mean anything now? When #1 comes down to who shouts loudest on Twitter/Facebook then I think it's game over for the charts.

Having said that, I see it as a good thing that two fingers may have been shown to Mr. Cowell. Not that he cares as I'm sure he's rolling in money whatever happens.

[BBx]

Since downloading was introduced as a contributor of the chart, I really haven't taken notice or have been bothered by it.

May have something to do with getting older, but the chart doesn't mean as much to me as it did before.

BB x

[Glaucus]

I deleted all my illegal music the other month so would of purchased it soon anyway. Nearly all the people who purchased rage also love the song. I don't think you realise just how big and popular they are with a statement like a minor hit.

We will have to wait and see if this has changed anything. Over the last couple of years, no one has released songs at Christmas as x-factor has been guaranteed. even record labels have said this. Maybe next year we will have some other bands releasing music at Christmas.

Simon cowell wont care. But rage has got loads of air time on radio this past week and it's been great.

everyone says Joe has a grea voice, but his cover was awful and so much worse than Miley Cyrus version. Maybe he has got a good voice and that song didn't suite him (but I don't watch x-factor). But he only had a chance at number one due to x-factor campaign. It is no different to an internet campaign. Expect the budget and PR resources of x-factor.