Gordon Brown - gone! - Page 2

BBx · 10-05-2010, 21:27

Oh God. I've only got my head around what a Hung Parliament is...

More complicated!!!

Anyone have an idiots guide to politics?!

BB x

Matblack · 10-05-2010, 21:30

This is a good start on the current situation

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8427233.stm

MB

Glaucus · 10-05-2010, 21:42

Not yet he isn't.
He wants a replacement by September.

Which I imagine will be around the next general election.

I can't see any government working. Be that con/lib lab/lib or con minority.

If a government is not formed I can see this hurting lib and labour.
Lib are in their best position to actually have some say in parliament and some policies implemented. Labour are ailianting people by trying to hang on to power. Which most people see as wrong. I can also see a massive drop in voters as people can't be bothered to vote for this shambles.

Von Smallhausen · 10-05-2010, 22:42

A Lib/Lab coalition just about guarantees their decimation at the next election.

semi-pro waster · 11-05-2010, 10:51

For a party that supposedly has a lot of power at present as "kingmakers" the Liberal Democrats are in a fairly unenviable position - they either go with the Conservatives whom they disagree on a number of policies with and may well not get the desired voting reforms or the go with Labour in a minority coalition government that doesn't look likely to be popular, they do agree on more policies and they may get closer to their desired voting reforms but it seems unlikely that it would be a particularly strong government as it would always be only a couple of dissenters away from losing any vote.

There's also, of course, the issue that Nick Clegg has intimated that they would throw their weight behind the party that had won the most seats which they do not appear particularly inclined to do given the policy (and possibly other) disagreements. They may still do so but this vacillating does not give the best of impressions.

divine · 11-05-2010, 11:06

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Originally Posted by semi-pro waster

There's also, of course, the issue that Nick Clegg has intimated that they would throw their weight behind the party that had won the most seats which they do not appear particularly inclined to do given the policy (and possibly other) disagreements. They may still do so but this vacillating does not give the best of impressions.

People keep saying this and I really don't agree, all Clegg ever said was that whoever got the most seats should be allowed first crack at forming a government, which is so far what is happening seeing as constitutionally Labour were the ones who should have been wheeling and dealing first but instead the Conservatives got first go at discussing with the Lib Dems.

I'm really not convinced that what he said (rather than what BBC/Sky report him saying out of context) in any way implies the Lib Dems would support the leading party.

Mark · 11-05-2010, 19:57

So then, Gordon had to have the final say. It's all over.

GB is no longer PM, and Cameron is off to have his confab with the Queen. You think he'll accept?

Looking likely to be a Con-Lib coalition with Nick Clegg as Deputy PM, but that's by no means a done deal.

Grandad · 11-05-2010, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

So then, Gordon had to have the final say. It's all over.

GB is no longer PM, and Cameron is off to have his confab with the Queen. You think he'll accept?

Looking likely to be a Con-Lib coalition with Nick Clegg as Deputy PM, but that's by no means a done deal.

My 1st thoughts were he has negotiated well to get the deputy PM role but in reality it is a nothing position and as often been given to folks as an alternative to giving them a proper cabinet post

Matblack · 11-05-2010, 20:25

We're screwed

MB

Knipples · 11-05-2010, 21:06

For some reason the shots of Gordon, his missus and the boys walking out of Downing Street brought a lump to my throat.

10-05-2010, 21:30	#12
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	This is a good start on the current situation http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8427233.stm MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

10-05-2010, 21:42	#13
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	Not yet he isn't. He wants a replacement by September. Which I imagine will be around the next general election. I can't see any government working. Be that con/lib lab/lib or con minority. If a government is not formed I can see this hurting lib and labour. Lib are in their best position to actually have some say in parliament and some policies implemented. Labour are ailianting people by trying to hang on to power. Which most people see as wrong. I can also see a massive drop in voters as people can't be bothered to vote for this shambles. __________________ Last edited by Glaucus; 10-05-2010 at 21:46.

10-05-2010, 22:42	#14
Von Smallhausen I'm Free Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tyneside Posts: 3,061	A Lib/Lab coalition just about guarantees their decimation at the next election. __________________ " Well, old bean, life is really so bloody awful that I feel it’s my absolute duty to be chirpy and try and make everybody else happy too." David Niven, 1910-1983.

11-05-2010, 10:51	#15
semi-pro waster Provider of sensible advice about homosexuals Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 2,615	For a party that supposedly has a lot of power at present as "kingmakers" the Liberal Democrats are in a fairly unenviable position - they either go with the Conservatives whom they disagree on a number of policies with and may well not get the desired voting reforms or the go with Labour in a minority coalition government that doesn't look likely to be popular, they do agree on more policies and they may get closer to their desired voting reforms but it seems unlikely that it would be a particularly strong government as it would always be only a couple of dissenters away from losing any vote. There's also, of course, the issue that Nick Clegg has intimated that they would throw their weight behind the party that had won the most seats which they do not appear particularly inclined to do given the policy (and possibly other) disagreements. They may still do so but this vacillating does not give the best of impressions. __________________ "Your friend is the man that knows all about you, and still likes you." - Elbert Hubbard

11-05-2010, 20:25	#19
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	We're screwed MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

10-05-2010, 21:27	#11
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	Oh God. I've only got my head around what a Hung Parliament is... More complicated!!! Anyone have an idiots guide to politics?! BB x

11-05-2010, 19:57	#17
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	So then, Gordon had to have the final say. It's all over. GB is no longer PM, and Cameron is off to have his confab with the Queen. You think he'll accept? Looking likely to be a Con-Lib coalition with Nick Clegg as Deputy PM, but that's by no means a done deal.