Google indexing? - Page 2

Davey_Pitch · 19-12-2006, 13:53

One thing I'd suggest (purely website related) is to change the contact email from "paul@..." to "contact@...." or something similar. You use words like "we" all the time, yet seem to refer people to an individual for emails. Would probably be better to use a generic email address, looks a bit more professional then IMO.

Admiral Huddy · 19-12-2006, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

One thing I'd suggest (purely website related) is to change the contact email from "paul@..." to "contact@...." or something similar. You use words like "we" all the time, yet seem to refer people to an individual for emails. Would probably be better to use a generic email address, looks a bit more professional then IMO.

good call

I forgot about that - cheers Davey

Davey_Pitch · 19-12-2006, 14:04

And to create even more work for you, I'd suggest centralising the table in the screen (or even better, converting to Divs/CSS and putting them in the middle). For anyone using a large resolution there's going to be a lot of white space on the right side, which never looks so bad when the content is central

I'll stop finding more stuff for you to do now

Admiral Huddy · 19-12-2006, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

And to create even more work for you, I'd suggest centralising the table in the screen (or even better, converting to Divs/CSS and putting them in the middle). For anyone using a large resolution there's going to be a lot of white space on the right side, which never looks so bad when the content is central

I'll stop finding more stuff for you to do now

ah now you've lost me

Mark · 19-12-2006, 14:26

But I won't...

I'm certainly an advocate of using CSS and divs (and not using Frontpage) for websites, but I recognise there's a steep learning curve and not everyone has the time or the inclination to learn all this stuff. I guess it all depends how much time (and money) you want to spend on the site. Please don't take this personally - I salute anyone who has the drive to make a go of their own business venture.

One other thing I've noticed is that site navigation is somewhat lacking. You can get to most pages from the homepage, but once there, your options are very limited and mostly involve going back to the homepage. Also, the 'Back' buttons don't work properly due to attempting to navigate to two different places (check out what happens in Firefox and you'll understand). I must admit I'm not a huge fan of using JavaScript for site navigation, mainly because it breaks when people have scripting turned off (though admittedly most of your target audience probably won't know or care how to do that).

Davey_Pitch · 19-12-2006, 14:30

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ah now you've lost me

CSS=Cascading Style Sheets. You use an external file to take care of all the styling of your pages, from the font size and colour, to how links look, and pretty much every point inbetween. Using them means that if you ever want to redesign the site, instead of having to go through every single page changing the text properties, you only need to edit one file and it will affect every single page.

Divs=layers of a sort, used for page layout. Generally used now instead of tables, as they are a lot friendlier to accessibility software. As Divs are also controlled by a style sheet, it means you can change the layout of your site in seconds from one file.

If I get some time would you like me to redo your front page using style sheets and Divs so you can see what I mean? It shouldn't take me too long to do

Admiral Huddy · 19-12-2006, 14:34

Cheers Davey for the explaination.. CSS seems cool and a single point file is a good idea.

I am starting to realise the limitations of frontpage which is a sign I need to move on but as you said, and quite rightly, it's a steep learning curve and I've learnt hell of a lot already and I might not have the time.

I'll have a think about some sort of navigation. Problem is I've had very conflicting opinions which has left me very confused at times. That said, it's helped me find out more about what i'm doing and I'm grasping concepts better now, which is a lot harder than the technical aspect imo.

I'm waiting for my sister (a city lawer) to complete the T & Cs.

Admiral Huddy · 19-12-2006, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

If I get some time would you like me to redo your front page using style sheets and Divs so you can see what I mean? It shouldn't take me too long to do

Thanks - Would you need the FP source?

Davey_Pitch · 19-12-2006, 14:38

My personal opinion on navigation is that it needs to be fairly constant. If you can reach if from the front page, you should be able to reach it no matter where you are (after all, if they're important enough to have on the first page, they're important enough to have everywhere else).

I'm happy to have a crack at the site for you if you want (no charge of course), you could see then at least the differences that CSS/Divs can make

Davey_Pitch · 19-12-2006, 14:38

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Thanks - Would you need the FP source?

If you have it to hand it would be easier, otherwise I'll just download everything from the main page and use that

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Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	And to create even more work for you, I'd suggest centralising the table in the screen (or even better, converting to Divs/CSS and putting them in the middle). For anyone using a large resolution there's going to be a lot of white space on the right side, which never looks so bad when the content is central I'll stop finding more stuff for you to do now __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

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Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	Cheers Davey for the explaination.. CSS seems cool and a single point file is a good idea. I am starting to realise the limitations of frontpage which is a sign I need to move on but as you said, and quite rightly, it's a steep learning curve and I've learnt hell of a lot already and I might not have the time. I'll have a think about some sort of navigation. Problem is I've had very conflicting opinions which has left me very confused at times. That said, it's helped me find out more about what i'm doing and I'm grasping concepts better now, which is a lot harder than the technical aspect imo. I'm waiting for my sister (a city lawer) to complete the T & Cs. __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

19-12-2006, 14:38	#19
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	My personal opinion on navigation is that it needs to be fairly constant. If you can reach if from the front page, you should be able to reach it no matter where you are (after all, if they're important enough to have on the first page, they're important enough to have everywhere else). I'm happy to have a crack at the site for you if you want (no charge of course), you could see then at least the differences that CSS/Divs can make __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

19-12-2006, 14:26	#15
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	But I won't... I'm certainly an advocate of using CSS and divs (and not using Frontpage) for websites, but I recognise there's a steep learning curve and not everyone has the time or the inclination to learn all this stuff. I guess it all depends how much time (and money) you want to spend on the site. Please don't take this personally - I salute anyone who has the drive to make a go of their own business venture. One other thing I've noticed is that site navigation is somewhat lacking. You can get to most pages from the homepage, but once there, your options are very limited and mostly involve going back to the homepage. Also, the 'Back' buttons don't work properly due to attempting to navigate to two different places (check out what happens in Firefox and you'll understand). I must admit I'm not a huge fan of using JavaScript for site navigation, mainly because it breaks when people have scripting turned off (though admittedly most of your target audience probably won't know or care how to do that).