Any programmers here? - Page 2

Joe 90 · 13-09-2007, 15:47

c++ is evil - and a cause of great stress...

unless of course you're an Ub3r coder then you'll be fine... using it to create mathematical classes is fairly straight forward but there are languages that'll make an easier job of in imo. still, the only other languages i bother with are web based :/

Arcade Fire · 13-09-2007, 15:59

Cheers guys, this is all helpful stuff.

LD, I've dabbled with Maple before and it's definitely very powerful (probably the best symbolic language I've used in fact) but it suffers from the same problem as MATLAB, in that because it's so high level it's also very slow. It's not really designed for writing programs in - more for doing tedious symbolic manipulation one line at a time. It's very good at what it does, but what it does isn't what I need it to do.

Mark · 13-09-2007, 15:59

Really depends what areas of programming you want to get into. If it's web-based, then Java (obviously), plus Ruby/Perl/PHP on the server side. If it's traditional then the choice is mostly C++, C#, and Java, though there's plenty of others around (Visual Basic, Delphi, COBOL, anyone?

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Arcade Fire · 13-09-2007, 16:01

I've heard that a lot of programs, particularly in the world of finance but also in accounting, project management etc., have their back end written in C++ or C# and their user interface done in VB. Has that been the case in anyone's experience?

Joe 90 · 13-09-2007, 16:02

well tbh, if you learn VB then i guess there'd be the really simple method of using excel.

you can make a nice easy to use, and easy to create interface with excel, then have a VB coded 'backend' to do all the complicated bits...

Daz · 13-09-2007, 16:15

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Originally Posted by Arcade Fire

Has that been the case in anyone's experience?

Pretty much, a couple of big ERP systems I've put in have been similar like that (low level back end, high level front end), and it's a fairly obvious design choice so it's understandably common. Delphi front end's are also quite common ime.

Admiral Huddy · 13-09-2007, 16:18

20 years of RPG/RPGIII and RPG ILE

a pint if you have heard of it..

Mark · 13-09-2007, 17:02

Hint: it's not Role Playing Game or Rocket Propelled Grenade.

I shudder to even think what would happen if Huddy got hold of the latter.

Burble · 13-09-2007, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Admiral Huddy

20 years of RPG/RPGIII and RPG ILE

a pint if you have heard of it..

You owe me a pint then

Our ERP still has some older stuff written in RPG3.

Mark · 13-09-2007, 17:50

I guess he should have known better that to make that offer on a forum with an above-average quota of geeks.

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Joe 90 Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chester Posts: 2,345	c++ is evil - and a cause of great stress... unless of course you're an Ub3r coder then you'll be fine... using it to create mathematical classes is fairly straight forward but there are languages that'll make an easier job of in imo. still, the only other languages i bother with are web based :/ __________________ 360 Blog \| Join GiffGaff \| Twitter

13-09-2007, 15:59	#12
Arcade Fire Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 40	Cheers guys, this is all helpful stuff. LD, I've dabbled with Maple before and it's definitely very powerful (probably the best symbolic language I've used in fact) but it suffers from the same problem as MATLAB, in that because it's so high level it's also very slow. It's not really designed for writing programs in - more for doing tedious symbolic manipulation one line at a time. It's very good at what it does, but what it does isn't what I need it to do. __________________ Eschew obfuscation.

13-09-2007, 16:01	#14
Arcade Fire Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 40	I've heard that a lot of programs, particularly in the world of finance but also in accounting, project management etc., have their back end written in C++ or C# and their user interface done in VB. Has that been the case in anyone's experience? __________________ Eschew obfuscation.

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Joe 90 Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chester Posts: 2,345	well tbh, if you learn VB then i guess there'd be the really simple method of using excel. you can make a nice easy to use, and easy to create interface with excel, then have a VB coded 'backend' to do all the complicated bits... __________________ 360 Blog \| Join GiffGaff \| Twitter

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Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	20 years of RPG/RPGIII and RPG ILE a pint if you have heard of it.. __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

13-09-2007, 15:59	#13
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Really depends what areas of programming you want to get into. If it's web-based, then Java (obviously), plus Ruby/Perl/PHP on the server side. If it's traditional then the choice is mostly C++, C#, and Java, though there's plenty of others around (Visual Basic, Delphi, COBOL, anyone? )

13-09-2007, 17:02	#18
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Hint: it's not Role Playing Game or Rocket Propelled Grenade. I shudder to even think what would happen if Huddy got hold of the latter.

13-09-2007, 17:50	#20
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I guess he should have known better that to make that offer on a forum with an above-average quota of geeks.