So how much is your car tax going up by? - Page 2

FakeSnake · 18-03-2008, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Zirax

Well on the longer motorway commutes you do really need at least a 1.6/1.8. This is simply so its not screaming its guts out doing 70. I thought I might be caught with mine, but I'm just clear.

I am gonna pick up on this.. and disagree entirely

I drive my wifes Aygo 1.0vvti quite often on long journeys because it uses bugger all petrol.
Its perfectly useable on the motorway and I usually cruise somewhere between 70 and 80.
my last big journey was to Pebs 'Graduation'. Didnt have one incident where I thought... OMG I needed more power to get out of a situation or more power to overtake. It was perfectly capable of overtaking cars and not causing issues on the road.

I dont drive it like the scooby because it isnt the scooby. I get into the mindset of the car I am about to drive, then all becomes far less stressful and worrying.

Jhadur · 18-03-2008, 15:21

Pre-2001 car here so no increase. Was thinking of changing the car this year for something newer if we could afford it but not sure that will be possible now

Oh well have to look at getting an old bike instead

Stan_Lite · 18-03-2008, 15:33

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Originally Posted by FakeSnake

I am gonna pick up on this.. and disagree entirely

I drive my wifes Aygo 1.0vvti quite often on long journeys because it uses bugger all petrol.
Its perfectly useable on the motorway and I usually cruise somewhere between 70 and 80.
my last big journey was to Pebs 'Graduation'. Didnt have one incident where I thought... OMG I needed more power to get out of a situation or more power to overtake. It was perfectly capable of overtaking cars and not causing issues on the road.

I dont drive it like the scooby because it isnt the scooby. I get into the mindset of the car I am about to drive, then all becomes far less stressful and worrying.

I agree with you.

I used to drive a 1.0L Nissan Micra and regularly drove it at the same speeds you drive your wife's Aygo quite comfortably. It wasn't a car for racing about in - it was a car from getting from one place to another cheaply.

I'm toying with the idea of getting a small, cheap runaround for myself so I'll have to research this a bit to see which cars are more economical. Probably be getting a diesel as I have no need to get anywhere particularly quickly and it won't be something particularly new or expensive as I'm only home five months of the year.

Jonny69 · 18-03-2008, 15:38

Both of mine will be going up from £0 to £0, an increase of 0%. What makes this ridiculous is if I fit the 4.7 litre motor to the Pop and it drops to less than 15mpg it'll go up to £0.

Their taxing system is a joke and £400+ for a year's tax is shameful when they don't offer an alternative. Sorry, but I'm just going to keep abusing the pre-73 rule on classic cars.

Admiral Huddy · 18-03-2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Desmo

Both of our cars are pre-2001 so we don't get hit by this....but as you say, it's just a joke really. What do they think this is going to solve? Nothing. It's just another revenue raiser.

Same here for our Galaxy.. I don't think it does do anything except a load of spin that the government are demonstrating that they are doing something but that's the problem isn't it. Everyone wants to act now but aren't really prepared to pay for the price. There has to be a comprimise somewhere.

I would have liked to have seen a radical change in policy rather than taxes.. Tougher laws on product packaging (not just bloody carrier bags), public transport insentives, cut back on street lighting, ban junk mail and free papers, go back to bottles for milk and juices etc..

It doesn't have to be taxing, it just needs some proper thought..

Zirax · 18-03-2008, 19:02

Thats fair enough. Personally the number of insanely short slip roads onto motorways I use, I prefer a larger engined car to get upto speed. I have done the same sliproads in 1L's and they just can't get upto a decent speed in time. It's more dangerous joining at 45mph than 70 slotting in.

There are also a number of roundabouts near me that are damn death traps. The m11 stansted springs to mind. In a 1L I was left with idiots cutting me up as I couldn't pull away quickly. With a larger engined car I pull away quickly, leaving the rest behind to fight over where they want to wander in the road.

Granted a small engine works on a motorway, but I would rather not wait ages for a huge gap to build the speed up to get past something. Especially if you are following someone and a gap opens, in a larger engined car you can just put your foot down and slip in. Smaller engined requires you to drop right back, build the speed back up and then have another go.

So yes they work on a motorway, but personally I wouldn't want the aggrevation.

Burble · 18-03-2008, 19:47

The R32 cost me £300 for the year when it was registered in November 2007. It'll cost me £400 when I re-tax it this year, £415 the year after then £430 after that.

My car chucks out 231g/km of CO2 so it's in band G now then band L.

I knew before I bought the car that it was going to cost me £400 next time around and to be honest and extra £15, then another £15 on top of that doesn't bother me. It's irrelevant compared to the amount of V-Power it likes to guzzle its way through.

Feek · 18-03-2008, 19:49

No change for me, the Feekmobile was registered in 2000.

Will · 18-03-2008, 20:06

Group K - so £300 too.

Time to buy a big 1970s V8. Classic car, lovely jubly.

Like CO2 is that big an issue

Just plant more trees and stop deforestation - sorted. They're trying to stop us from eating meat now as farming and processing meat causes 18% more pollution worldwide than transport (i.e. trains, planes, automobiles) apparently. :/ I'm fed up of this **** - I might just move to somewhere where I can buy a big car and drive it because I deserve to own something nice because I've worked my ****ing arse off, paid nearly 50% of my salary to the government, similar amounts on the duty of petrol, and tax and insurance, why the **** shouldn't I be able to drive what the **** I want without being ****ed around by some tree hugging ***** who have nothing better to do that make up some **** ****ing bollocks facts and figures about some global warming that hasn't even been proven as categoric fact. Speculation and preventative blind guessing is ****. **** it, they're not going to stop me driving what I want, even if it is expensive they can go **** themselves.

Jonny69 · 18-03-2008, 21:22

Will, it's specifically beef farming. Sounds insanely silly but cows farting methane contributes more to greenhouse effect than cars worldwide. Methane holds a lot more heat than CO2 (I think it's 5 times as much - would have to check) and eventually breaks down into CO2 and water anyway.

Edit: Correction. Methane holds just over twice as much as CO2 according to here for CO2 and here for methane

18-03-2008, 15:21	#12
Jhadur Peter Pan Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lost Inside My Head Posts: 1,068	Pre-2001 car here so no increase. Was thinking of changing the car this year for something newer if we could afford it but not sure that will be possible now Oh well have to look at getting an old bike instead __________________ "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in awhile, you could miss it."

18-03-2008, 15:38	#14
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	Both of mine will be going up from £0 to £0, an increase of 0%. What makes this ridiculous is if I fit the 4.7 litre motor to the Pop and it drops to less than 15mpg it'll go up to £0. Their taxing system is a joke and £400+ for a year's tax is shameful when they don't offer an alternative. Sorry, but I'm just going to keep abusing the pre-73 rule on classic cars. __________________

18-03-2008, 19:49	#18
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	No change for me, the Feekmobile was registered in 2000. __________________

18-03-2008, 20:06	#19
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	Group K - so £300 too. Time to buy a big 1970s V8. Classic car, lovely jubly. Like CO2 is that big an issue Just plant more trees and stop deforestation - sorted. They're trying to stop us from eating meat now as farming and processing meat causes 18% more pollution worldwide than transport (i.e. trains, planes, automobiles) apparently. :/ I'm fed up of this ** - I might just move to somewhere where I can buy a big car and drive it because I deserve to own something nice because I've worked my ing arse off, paid nearly 50% of my salary to the government, similar amounts on the duty of petrol, and tax and insurance, why the shouldn't I be able to drive what the I want without being ed around by some tree hugging * who have nothing better to do that make up some ing bollocks facts and figures about some global warming that hasn't even been proven as categoric fact. Speculation and preventative blind guessing is . it, they're not going to stop me driving what I want, even if it is expensive they can go themselves. __________________ No No!**

18-03-2008, 21:22	#20
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	Will, it's specifically beef farming. Sounds insanely silly but cows farting methane contributes more to greenhouse effect than cars worldwide. Methane holds a lot more heat than CO2 (I think it's 5 times as much - would have to check) and eventually breaks down into CO2 and water anyway. Edit: Correction. Methane holds just over twice as much as CO2 according to here for CO2 and here for methane __________________ Last edited by Jonny69; 18-03-2008 at 21:26.

18-03-2008, 19:02	#16
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	Thats fair enough. Personally the number of insanely short slip roads onto motorways I use, I prefer a larger engined car to get upto speed. I have done the same sliproads in 1L's and they just can't get upto a decent speed in time. It's more dangerous joining at 45mph than 70 slotting in. There are also a number of roundabouts near me that are damn death traps. The m11 stansted springs to mind. In a 1L I was left with idiots cutting me up as I couldn't pull away quickly. With a larger engined car I pull away quickly, leaving the rest behind to fight over where they want to wander in the road. Granted a small engine works on a motorway, but I would rather not wait ages for a huge gap to build the speed up to get past something. Especially if you are following someone and a gap opens, in a larger engined car you can just put your foot down and slip in. Smaller engined requires you to drop right back, build the speed back up and then have another go. So yes they work on a motorway, but personally I wouldn't want the aggrevation.

18-03-2008, 19:47	#17
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	The R32 cost me £300 for the year when it was registered in November 2007. It'll cost me £400 when I re-tax it this year, £415 the year after then £430 after that. My car chucks out 231g/km of CO2 so it's in band G now then band L. I knew before I bought the car that it was going to cost me £400 next time around and to be honest and extra £15, then another £15 on top of that doesn't bother me. It's irrelevant compared to the amount of V-Power it likes to guzzle its way through.