Feek's adventures with OS X - Page 2

Feek · 30-03-2008, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by randal

There's a decent amount of info in here:

http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2..._a_british.php

There's some keyboard maps that might work for you, didn't have a lot of luck with them in Kalyway 10.5.2 unfortunately.

I've seen that one already and it did a good job of swapping my " and @ around to the right place but didn't touch ` and \ though. Not that I use them too much anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

As for the whole Command/Option/Apple thing, this site seems to answer that one...

http://www.myfirstmac.com/index.php/...oard-shortcuts

Good link

randal · 30-03-2008, 18:34

Bummer, sorry the link wasn't much cop. I might consider buying a Mac keyboard, as it looks like it's a darn sight easier to map keys in Windows using 3rd party apps.

I really do miss my "|" for piping stuff on the command line

Mark · 30-03-2008, 18:45

I assume you did select the 'British - Windows - 2' profile. All the keys on my Microsoft Natural UK keyboard do what they're supposed to - including ` | \ ' @ " etc. You might have to select the profile more than once to get it to 'stick' (rebooting/switching apps can undo the change so adding the keyboard profile selection in the Apple menu is a good idea).

I am using a real Mac with Tiger installed, but I wouldn't expect those to make that much difference (I'm opening myself up to being proved wrong there).

randal · 30-03-2008, 18:57

Yep, tried 2 and it didn't work. I think it actually locked out the whole keyboard, so I'm wondering if the maps work slightly different between Tiger and Leopard...

Feek · 30-03-2008, 19:09

When I first installed it and selected British 2 I found that none of the keys worked. I rebooted and it worked fine.

randal · 30-03-2008, 19:12

Ah nice one, I'll give that a crack in a minute. Well, when I can be arsed to get up off the couch.

Cheers!

Feek · 30-03-2008, 20:01

OK, I've found something which is frustrating me.

If I'm in, say, NeoOffice working on something and I move my mouse over to Firefox, if I click on a link then all it does first of all is activate that window - I actually need to click somewhere in the window first to give the program focus and then click the link. On Windows I can move my mouse from Excel to Firefox, click a link and it works straight away. Or I'm in iCal and go to select a different tab from the active in FF and I have to click twice, once to give focus to FF and once to select the tab.

Although it seems inconsistent. If FF has focus and I have iCal on screen, if I click a different day in iCal it switches to that straight away but if I want to change from Day to Week view then I have to do the click for focus and then click again.

Not sure how this is working.

Mark · 30-03-2008, 20:11

OS X focus activation thing is completely different from Windows anyway. I'm surprised iCal even partly works (though I agree it does).

Feek · 30-03-2008, 20:27

Ahah, so it's not just my imagination! Is there a way to tweak it as it seems as though I'm needing a lot of unnecessary clicks.

petemc · 30-03-2008, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feek

OK, I've found something which is frustrating me.

If I'm in, say, NeoOffice working on something and I move my mouse over to Firefox, if I click on a link then all it does first of all is activate that window - I actually need to click somewhere in the window first to give the program focus and then click the link. On Windows I can move my mouse from Excel to Firefox, click a link and it works straight away. Or I'm in iCal and go to select a different tab from the active in FF and I have to click twice, once to give focus to FF and once to select the tab.

Although it seems inconsistent. If FF has focus and I have iCal on screen, if I click a different day in iCal it switches to that straight away but if I want to change from Day to Week view then I have to do the click for focus and then click again.

Not sure how this is working.

Eeeeehhhh? I've never noticed that. Now I have. Huh. How odd, its never bothered me.

Change that option too. It makes tabbing more windowsy.

30-03-2008, 18:34	#12
randal Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 22	Bummer, sorry the link wasn't much cop. I might consider buying a Mac keyboard, as it looks like it's a darn sight easier to map keys in Windows using 3rd party apps. I really do miss my "\|" for piping stuff on the command line __________________ You aren't missing anything... but you are missing.

30-03-2008, 18:57	#14
randal Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 22	Yep, tried 2 and it didn't work. I think it actually locked out the whole keyboard, so I'm wondering if the maps work slightly different between Tiger and Leopard... __________________ You aren't missing anything... but you are missing.

30-03-2008, 19:09	#15
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	When I first installed it and selected British 2 I found that none of the keys worked. I rebooted and it worked fine. __________________

30-03-2008, 19:12	#16
randal Nice weak cup of Earl Grey Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 22	Ah nice one, I'll give that a crack in a minute. Well, when I can be arsed to get up off the couch. Cheers! __________________ You aren't missing anything... but you are missing.

30-03-2008, 20:01	#17
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	OK, I've found something which is frustrating me. If I'm in, say, NeoOffice working on something and I move my mouse over to Firefox, if I click on a link then all it does first of all is activate that window - I actually need to click somewhere in the window first to give the program focus and then click the link. On Windows I can move my mouse from Excel to Firefox, click a link and it works straight away. Or I'm in iCal and go to select a different tab from the active in FF and I have to click twice, once to give focus to FF and once to select the tab. Although it seems inconsistent. If FF has focus and I have iCal on screen, if I click a different day in iCal it switches to that straight away but if I want to change from Day to Week view then I have to do the click for focus and then click again. Not sure how this is working. __________________

30-03-2008, 18:45	#13
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I assume you did select the 'British - Windows - 2' profile. All the keys on my Microsoft Natural UK keyboard do what they're supposed to - including ` \| \ ' @ " etc. You might have to select the profile more than once to get it to 'stick' (rebooting/switching apps can undo the change so adding the keyboard profile selection in the Apple menu is a good idea). I am using a real Mac with Tiger installed, but I wouldn't expect those to make that much difference (I'm opening myself up to being proved wrong there).

30-03-2008, 20:11	#18
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	OS X focus activation thing is completely different from Windows anyway. I'm surprised iCal even partly works (though I agree it does).

30-03-2008, 20:27	#19
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	Ahah, so it's not just my imagination! Is there a way to tweak it as it seems as though I'm needing a lot of unnecessary clicks. __________________