F1

[AboveTheSalt]

Originally Posted by Miss_Lainey

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However, i am finding myself increasing frustrated with how crook the sport seems to be.
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I think that your entire argument falls apart when you attempt to describe F1 as a "sport".

It is supposed to be entertainment - all it really needs to make it a winning formula is Simon Cowell as commentator

Returning to the subject of ruthless Massa, the major talking point as we left the circuit was the ridiculous penalty awarded to Sebastien Bourdais for the collision with Massa near the end of the race. Bourdais was exiting the pit lane and the pit lane exit light was blue to warn him that a car was coming down the straight. They were racing each other for position. Bourdais came out of the pit lane, with Massa well over to the left on the run to the first corner. Massa drove like a man who felt that a Toro Rosso had no business being in his way and should let him pass. Bourdais did everything he could to avoid a collision, even putting his inside wheels on the kerbs, but Massa came across and spun around him. He might argue that he had his front wheels in front, but the team managers I spoke to after the race all said that FIA race director Charlie Whiting had briefed them in Singapore and again in Fuji that the car exiting the pits has right of way.

So once again, the stewards have gone against the advice Charlie has issued to teams, as they did with the penalty for Hamilton in Spa (where Whiting had told McLaren he thought Hamilton had acted fairly). If the teams cannot believe the race director, what hope have the rest of us and the wider public got? The FIA styles itself as the referee in this sport, but surely it cannot afford to keep sending out such mixed messages.

It confuses the public and makes some of them think that these things are being done for Ferrari’s benefit. (Link)

Who is this "some" of whom James Allen speaks

[Desmo]

Originally Posted by Miss_Lainey

However, i am finding myself increasing frustrated with how crook the sport seems to be.

Sorry to say, but F1 has been like this for years. Maybe as a fan, you've been a bit blind to it? I know a couple of friends who have.

Much prefer to watch MotoGP

[Burble]

Originally Posted by Desmo

Much prefer to watch MotoGP

I've always said you're a very sensible chap

I'm interested to see if my enjoyment of F1 will increase when it goes back to the Beeb. The ITV commentary team are so woeful it's almost amusing. I know Murray made mistakes too, but the ITV guys really take the biscuit.

[Mark]

Thing is, when Murray made a mistake, it was often worthy of an outtakes show, or he'd say how well a driver is doing and the car would promptly blow up/crash. The current lot may know their stuff, but entertaining they aren't.

[Flibster]

As an ex-f1 employee it pains me to see how bad the 'sport' has become these days.

It's not so much that the FIA are pro-Ferrari, they are a lot more anti-Mclaren. It does appear that they have decided who is getting the championships if they can help it though.

ITV has been a shambles for the most part too. the first couple of years whne they had Murray were ok, sadly they also had the Count Von Count *Jim Rosenthal* hosting it and he was useless. The only people I would take across to the BBC coverage would be Martin Brundle and Ted Kravitz

But I do believe that it's Heir Mosley and his band of SS Stewards that are killing the spectacle of F1.

[Knipples]

Originally Posted by Flibster

But I do believe that it's Heir Mosley and his band of SS Stewards that are killing the spectacle of F1.

Amen to that Flibster as you already know from our many rants/conversations on the OCUK thread.

[divine]

Originally Posted by Flibster

But I do believe that it's Heir Mosley and his band of SS Stewards that are killing the spectacle of F1.

I think it's more the fact he actually doesn't have a band of stewards, they seem to just be local bums employed for a weekend at a time

[Flibster]

Originally Posted by Knipples

Amen to that Flibster as you already know from our many rants/conversations on the OCUK thread.

Me?

I'm sweet and innocent

[Flibster]

Oh, and by a complete coincidence, I've found a couple of Images that I dug up or in one case created looong before Max's Spank-o-rama!

Bernie waves hello to Max

Max at rest in his holiday home in Obersalzberg

[divine]

'JaVol.jpg'

Did you mean Jawohl?