Fur Back in Fashion?

[Will]

I don't see a difference tbh as long as it's all used as much as possible. Ultimately the animal will lose it's life.

[phykell]

Originally Posted by Flibster

This is probably going to sound odd...

If the meat was eaten would fur be acceptable? We eat cows and use their skin - fair enough I suppose.

If so, they can ship some of the skinned mink to me and I'll give it a go.

I think it would be more acceptable if the meat was used but the animals would have to be treated humanely as well. IMO there's also a distinction between killing animals for their meat and killing them for their fur, certainly in the Western world anyway and there's also the question of how *many* animals have to die for a simple coat which someone could simply choose not to buy. For a coat made of Chinchilla fur it takes at least 100 of the animals to be slaughtered

[Piggymon]

100 ? Oh my god

[Matblack]

Have you seen the size of a chinchilla? You couldn't make a tiny furry jockstrap out of just one!

Here's one



and here's 100 of his friends



At least they got to hang out with Madslag for a day


MB

[Piggymon]

Aww poor little things

I'd probably only need 50 for a coat though

Regardless of the animal rights issue, I don't even think fur coats etc look nice.

[BBx]

Originally Posted by phykell

For a coat made of Chinchilla fur it takes at least 100 of the animals to be slaughtered

Poor little things I love chinchillas.. the one I held last week at the pet farm was sooo soft, but he's a little creature with a beating heart and cute as a pie! So so not right!

Originally Posted by Piggymon

Regardless of the animal rights issue, I don't even think fur coats etc look nice.

Nah I can't see the attraction either.. :/ must be more of a status symbol I guess and linings of bags... wth?!

I don't like Madonna anymore

BB x

[phykell]

Originally Posted by BBelle

...but he's a little creature with a beating heart

That's eactly it, that's why it's just not right. I understand our place at the top of the food chain, that we eat other creatures and so on, but there's a line at which what's natural and what's reasonable no longer applies. I just think killing over a hundred such creatures just to make a simple coat can't be justified. It just seems like a complete disregard for life, much like using dynamite in a pond to catch a single fish. I wonder what such people must be thinking to consider a single coat actually worth the killing and skinning of so many animals. There's a parallel to eating meat as well - if I was offered foie gras, veal, battery-farmed eggs or any other food produced without due regard to the animal's welfare, I'd refuse.

[semi-pro waster]

I'm not in favour of people wearing fur really, I don't think it looks particularly good and it simply isn't necessary but if animals must be bred to be used for fur then ideally I'd prefer for as much of the meat to be used as possible to minimise unnecessary wastage. Additionally the killing should be done in the most humane way possible, I simply don't buy into the toss spouted about "it makes the fur softer to skin them alive", bite me, the difference will be negligible if it exists and even then it still wouldn't be even remotely a valid excuse for additional cruelty.

[Gnat]

Originally Posted by phykell

I wonder what such people must be thinking to consider a single coat actually worth the killing and skinning of so many animals. There's a parallel to eating meat as well - if I was offered foie gras, veal, battery-farmed eggs or any other food produced without due regard to the animal's welfare, I'd refuse.

I suppose it is similar to food though...

If I wear a fur coat, I dont think of the animals it came from.
The same as if I eat a bacon sandwich or a pork chop, I dont think of the pigs it came from, tommorow, I will quite happily eat my roast lamb without thinking of little fluffy lambs hopping over hedges etc.

[phykell]

Originally Posted by semi-pro waster

I simply don't buy into the toss spouted about "it makes the fur softer to skin them alive", bite me, the difference will be negligible if it exists and even then it still wouldn't be even remotely a valid excuse for additional cruelty.

I fully agree. It's shocking that they would have so little concern for the animal that they'd do such a thing. It makes me wonder how people can have so little empathy for a living creature. Do they really think they're that different to human beings? Do they think an animal's suffering is any less intense or unbearable than a human's? Perhaps if people learned empathy for animals, rather than viewing them as a mere convenience, only on the planet for our utility, it'd be the first step to a kinder world.