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Old 20-10-2009, 12:30   #21
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Couldn't agree more Mei Mei. Exactly it is a luxury - and why I rely on supermarket shopping as well. Though since I don't go out much and don't drink much, and don't have a mortgage to pay, I have a bit of spare money for slightly better food which is a priority for me and I feel able to buy the slightly better quality stuff. However I agree in an ideal world we'd all buy the best stuff we could - I still miss going to my butchers

Money is key ultimately isn't it?

PS Foi gras rocks!
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Old 20-10-2009, 12:35   #22
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Haha oh BBx your not a bad person at all!!!
In the big supermarkets they seem to be selling less and less maltreated animal products! Its pretty much just basics that seem to be battery farmed etc! I always go for freerange eggs because the price difference is mere pennies, but with meats...the cost difference 'can' be huuuge!!! Obviously is freerange pampered meat is on offer then I will buy it!!
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Old 20-10-2009, 13:27   #23
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In an ideal world I would love to make my chicken choices based on its upbringing, but for me, right now cost is my main decision maker.

I've watched those programmes before but unfortunately they get pushed to the back of my mind when shopping.
^^ What she said.

Case in point, free range eggs, laid by chickens played soft music while being massaged by Swedish blondes £1.80 for 6

Barn eggs, chickens given a bit of room to move, and fed on chicken pellets. £1.80 for 10

Battery eggs, chickens 4 in a cage fed on their dead neighbours 99p for 15.

Give me tortured eggs anyday, they tase just as good between 2 slices of white and covered in ketchup.
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Old 20-10-2009, 13:36   #24
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Which give me a great idea for lunch...mmmmmm! Thanks Fayshun!
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Old 20-10-2009, 14:37   #25
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I think this comes down to what people view as luxury and what they view as a necessity. We hardly drink and hardly go out so we can afford the luxury that is Chicken.
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Old 20-10-2009, 14:38   #26
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I don't doubt it is a luxury to some. We can afford it because we prioritise - we don't buy alcohol - at least very rarely, we rarely eat out and we don't go out drinking. Once every few months we'll go to a meet.

This is what makes the difference for us and allows us to buy the good meat. We buy pretty much everything else from Aldi/Lidl, and find that not wasting money on other things, allows us to make up the difference between f/r (or at least RSPCA standard) and bog-standard. Although if we're having a thin month, we'll just go to Costco and buy a bag of frozen breasts and use them for the month - although now I can tell the difference we tend to go without rather than buy cheap. Usually we have enough bought from good deals at the supermarkets then frozen to not need to (you can get some absolute crackers in the reduced section!)

Sometimes though, it's just a priority thing. Some people who say that they can't afford better cuts of meat actually could but prefer to spend it on other things - booze, nights out, holidays, etc. Then it's not a case of not being able to afford it, but wanting other things more. It's whatever is important to you that matters, and that's all that you should worry about. If you're happy with your decisions and your standard of living, then that's what matters most. It's a case of balance.

Edit: hehe, great minds Leo
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Old 20-10-2009, 14:49   #27
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I think this comes down to what people view as luxury and what they view as a necessity. We hardly drink and hardly go out so we can afford the luxury that is Chicken.
This - and also what Will said.

I'm sorry but I will not be told what values I have and what I can/can't afford and what is/is not a luxury. I accept some people can afford more than I and I also accept that some people can't afford some of the things I have. Hell a friend of mine can't afford TV License... she thinks the fact I have a TV and what not is fantastic. If she said to me "Wow, if I could only afford a TV, that would be a luxury" I wouldn't DREAM of turning around and saying "What? I can't believe you think it's a luxury"! That's just rude and insulting and would make me sound like a spoiled little brat.


Mei mei - I was the same as you! It doesn't make you a bad person at all!! I don't think it's bad at all! I just had the shock of meeting this dude... kind of really brought home a lot of stuff to me! I think if you met him your skin would have crawled too I will still eat whatever chicken is put in front of me, just make a concious effort not to buy it unless I know it's free range
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Old 20-10-2009, 15:01   #28
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If she said to me "Wow, if I could only afford a TV, that would be a luxury" I wouldn't DREAM of turning around and saying "What? I can't believe you think it's a luxury"! That's just rude and insulting and would make me sound like a spoiled little brat.
Sorry Pheebs I just don't see it as rude and insulting? I just see that as you saying to your friend you don't see how a TV is a luxury
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It devalues what they consider to be a luxury... which is insulting?!
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It devalues what they consider to be a luxury... which is insulting?!
No it doesn't because they just have different priorities. If we take your example and compare it to new cars (which to me are a luxury) I don't feel insulted or devalued because I can't afford a new car.
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