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I don't think it has anything to do with emotion and I understand everything you are saying but this isn't the first time for Harringay and everytime they say "we are learning". This isn't just about Social Services, it's about everyone, including the Doctor, Childminder and so on. I'm sorry but heads should roll. These people are put into a position of trust and responsibility regardless of their remuneration. An exmaple has to be made, the system reviewed and a radical change in the way the system operates. There is too much "passing the buck" and "ticking the boxes" just get a job done without actually doing so.
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Dealing with social services ourselves whilst fostering was the single most frustrating thing about the whole experience. I must have told them on 5 accounts, that one lad shouldn't be in our care because he kept running away back home as that he was in danger, as his destination back home was about 3 hours on the run. They ignored every call until they decided that after a month I was right.
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I'm pretty sure I read that decison was overturned due to financial reasons and lack of experience iirc.
May I ask who regulates Social Services?
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I once had a blazing argument with one of them trying to put my point across but it fell on deaf ears. They piss me off royally at times.
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18-11-2008, 18:27 | #25 |
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After watching the panorama programme last night I felt quite the way that Huddy describes above, but you have to remember that the media in this country is so heavily regulated and a lot of the facts and information still haven't been divulged, even after the programme.
Therefore, a lot of the public outrage is based on: a) the information that has been released so far and b) the media's interpretation of it. People also forget how ridiciously PC and full of red tape our country is. What the programme doesn't explain is how hard it is to take a child away from a home.. a magistrate has to agree this is the best action to take, and when the doctor doesn't agree that the 'injuries' were not caused accidentally, this doesn't help the case. I copied this from my response on OCUK, so sorry if its undermining anyone who's had personal experiences with SS. I posted this after talking to my friend who is a Social Worker in another area, but has received the full report from Haringey, and after reading it said that there isn't anything that they (her SS) would have done differently. BB x |
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I agree with you BBx but the problem lies with the whole system failing, not just a few parts. What's unque about this case was the continued injuries that this child sustained without any positive action being taken. This could have been prevented and for the SS to say they wouldn't have done anything any different is just b******. I'm pretty sure they would have.
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I'm just saying that there is a lot of information that we don't know about the case.
We are not SWs, we don't know what they can or can't do. Its so easy to point the finger without having all of this knowledge. BB x PS this should be in News, Current Affairs and Debates section - no wonder I couldn't find it yesterday! Last edited by BBx; 19-11-2008 at 11:55. |
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I don't believe social workers do the job for the money or benefits and generally speaking they do a job which many people, myself included, couldn't do. I'd rather wait until any investigations are complete - only then should it be appropriate to point the finger of blame. I just hope an enquiry will help our social support system avoid such tragic cases ever happening again.
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Which is why, in my opinion, you can't ask people to resign over it. If one or two people have made big mistakes in what they've done then they should be out of a job. If however their hands have been tied by the system then it's not really their fault.
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When something like this does happen again the press will decend like dogs on a rotting corpse and there will be another witch hunt. I am sorry this happened but social workers work to reduce these occurances they won't be able to eliminate them. MB |
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