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Old 17-11-2008, 15:34   #21
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I soon changed my mind when Pete and I played Vegas on his Xbox360. The slow unrealistic movement resembles puppet string physics. The moue keyboard combo wins.
You're dismissing an entire console based on a single game, which is easily the slowest FPS I've ever played? You should try something like Call of Duty or Halo, there's nothing wrong with the speed of those games.
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Gears is a FPS in a 3PS shell. Aiming is entirely FPS. A 3PS is more traditionally seen as a Resident Evil or Tomb Raider.
Then Max Payne is also a FPS in a 3PS shell?
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Old 17-11-2008, 15:46   #23
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You're dismissing an entire console based on a single game, which is easily the slowest FPS I've ever played? You should try something like Call of Duty or Halo, there's nothing wrong with the speed of those games.

Davey, have you played COD 4 on PC at all. I find it to be quite fast and franetic but I suspect that is exagerated because there is more players in a server. I wanted to see how the multiplayer compares. I would expect the pace of the console COD4 to be a little slower by comparison
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Old 17-11-2008, 16:04   #24
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Davey, have you played COD 4 on PC at all. I find it to be quite fast and franetic but I suspect that is exagerated because there is more players in a server. I wanted to see how the multiplayer compares. I would expect the pace of the console COD4 to be a little slower by comparison
You are almost certainly right, there is a compromise when you go over to a console, 360 graphics were behind PC graphics where the console hit the market and because the hardware hasn't been updated they still are. so there is a compromise but there sacrifices to be made to play PC games not least of which is the cost of the constant updating of hardware. If you can make the break then you will find gaming more affordable on a console but you will have to live with the fact you are no longer at the cutting edge of graphics not that 360 graphics are bad and the designers are constantly using new tricks to get the most out of the thing.

Would I prefer a cutting edge always up to date (hardware and driver) PC with all the games I can play on the 360 with a version of live which is accepted by all the games producers and a high quality joypad? If someone else is paying? Yes I would.

Would I rather compromise hundreds of pounds a year running into £1000s vs slightly worse graphics and the odd game which is slower for somthing which cost me ~£150 for 3-4 years (before it RRODs) gaming? Definately, and I did and ioon all honesty I don't regret it

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Old 17-11-2008, 16:08   #25
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I'm definately a PC gamer.

RTS, FPS and Simulations are so much better on the PC. I currently use a modified Logitech MX Revolution and normally a Belkin n52te or a Microsoft Natural 4000

I must be one of the few people who have never had any problems with the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games. Always ran fine.

I have plugged my machine into large screens, but then I usually have to turn the settings down. 24" CRT gaming goodness.

I have consoles, but my 360 is still in it's box as it has been for months, PS2 is covered in an inch of dust, Playstation, Nes, Snes, Megadrive, Master system, N64 are all boxed up. Wii and DS are the only ones that get any regular use.

I also don't really play online anymore - last game I really did play online was Desert Combat, but that seemed to become obscessed with Capture the Flag, which is a hugely enormous pile of poo, so I stopped playing it. So Live, Steam and all that are irrelivent to me.
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Old 17-11-2008, 16:31   #26
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Davey, have you played COD 4 on PC at all. I find it to be quite fast and franetic but I suspect that is exagerated because there is more players in a server. I wanted to see how the multiplayer compares. I would expect the pace of the console COD4 to be a little slower by comparison
Only single player, not played MP on PC, but I do think it would be faster on the PC due to the extra players. I like the number of players on Xbox though, as I get killed enough as it is, adding even more skilled players would be very frustrating
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I also don't really play online anymore - last game I really did play online was Desert Combat, but that seemed to become obscessed with Capture the Flag, which is a hugely enormous pile of poo, so I stopped playing it.
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Old 17-11-2008, 16:33   #28
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Then Max Payne is also a FPS in a 3PS shell?
Yep, that's how In see it.
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Old 17-11-2008, 16:37   #29
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Yep, that's how In see it.
Weirdo If I see the game through the eyes of a character - First Person. If I can see all my character - 3rd person. Simple as that for me
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Old 17-11-2008, 17:19   #30
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I'm still baffled by this apparent problem that you need to spend £400 on a graphics card and 'constantly update hardware' to run games on a PC. You don't. You could build an entire dedicated gaming tower for £500/£600 that would look and play better than a console does and remain viable for a good 2 or 3 years.

Once you add in long term costs such a Live sub and the fact games are typically £10-£15 more expensive on console, I don't think the PC actually works out much more expensive anyway.

Anyone who 'runs into the £1000s' every year on a PC isn't doing it through necessity, it's because they're a muppet and have no control over their money and urge to buy overpriced unnecessary hardware.
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