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Glaucus · 11-03-2009, 20:32

Also had a lot of odd things like an 18ft flaming Satan in my room. Room crullign with snakes from when I was around 4 and having nightly injections in my stomach from 3 "alien" doctors, I put it down to sleep paralysis. Scarred the hell out of me when I was younger until I saw a documentary on sleep paralysis. it suddenly all made os much sense and rarely get hem anymore.

Pheebs · 11-03-2009, 20:41

I get sleep paralysis! I had it the other night in fact! Picky and his green eyes trying to kill me

Boo!

Things I've seen has been when I've been as bright as rain! No illness or nada... very odd!

Feek · 11-03-2009, 21:00

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Coincidental?

Yup.

phykell · 11-03-2009, 21:05

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Thing is... I agree with you when a person dies they're gone from the body entirely... but I've had so many experiences I just... I cannot explain... that are linked to people who have died or to people I know but haven't seen in a while. Also seen some pretty weird phenomenons in my life time, which, despite trying my best to figure out some scientific reason behind it... I just can't...

I prefer to be a cynic but unfortunately, even I've witnessed and experienced certain phenomena that I can't explain.

Pheebs · 12-03-2009, 09:15

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Yup.

Well this is what I thought on that occasion but I cannot explain some of the things I've seen at all. Not a cluuue. Also, I've had very strange experiences when I've known someone has died/had ill health. Like, I rang my folks up one day as I had a horrendous feeling about my cousin who I hadn't seen in about a year nor spoken to or about... and Ma paused and said she had some sad news and she had just miscarried this morning.

Also had experiences of premonitions... one dream I had *completely* freaked out some house mates. I told them of a car that had crashed, the colour of it and even some of the number plate details and how vivid it all was. Driving into town that day, low and behold, a car of the exact description had just been completely crumpled in an accident... and it had similar number plate details (muddled up). A guy died in the crash. My mates... completely freaked at me.

:/

Cannot explain it at all. My "poltergeist" though... I thought I could understand scientific reasoning behind that - I swear I'm quite electrically charged and must have been more so when younger with hormones and all. So I thought it's down to that why the tv would change channel/turn on without compressing the button/bulbs blew when I walked under them despite them being replaced recently and electrics checked etc etc. Or at least some of it.

My folks had all of the house checked by professional electricians and they metered our house, dug up the road etc and said that despite there being no explanation behind it, our house kept having surges of electricity going through it that made it look like a small industrial estate on their maps. One guy asked my folks if they were open minded... and suggested whether they'd thought of getting a medium in and after careful consideration they did. When she came into the house, she walked straight upstairs, into my room (she didn't know I was there) and started saying all this random stuff like I was possessed. Freaked me out a bit. She was kicked out and another person was brought round when I was out. They told my Pa he needed to go to my room when no one was there and tell the spirit to eff off basically. He... a laid back scientific chap... was starting to get so concerned over it he actually did it and recently told me that he went *bonkers* in my room and proper told it where to go when no one else was there. From that day onwards... it stopped.

Coincident?

I knew nothing about what my Pa did until recently and remember it did all just suddenly stop (it was a daily occurrence with me. Sleeping was a nightmare too as the TV/radio would turn on a couple of times during the night and I'd have to get up, unplug them all and go to bed.)

I really... don't feel I can put that down entirely to some scientific explanation at all. *something* must of been there with me. I don't know what or who or anything but something.

NokkonWud · 12-03-2009, 09:30

I don't follow any religion, nor necessarily believe in any one God, but I wouldn't want to be labelled an Atheist as I do have the ability to believe in someone or something and my impression of Atheism is that you shut out the possibility of anything like that, and that seems a little sad and depressing to me.

iCraig · 12-03-2009, 10:38

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Coincidental?

That's the problem. It is coincidence, but people always jump to the explanation of it being paranormal. Which seems odd to me, considering if it was paranormal, why would a ghost spent its afterlife fiddling with *your* oven? That's a big leap to me. Coincidence that the oven had a loose connection or whatever, and fiddling with it walking around it on that day, the connection came back and it worked. That seems a million times more likely.

Unexplained activity is always confirmed by whoever "investigates" it anyway. Getting mediums/spirit guides involved means nothing, because being a medium and making a living off it means they'll always say there's something there, whether there is or not. Making it inconclusive.

Pheebs · 12-03-2009, 10:54

As said, the oven I can kind of pass off as coincidence. The other stuff when I was younger though was... weird. If professional electricians can find nothing wrong with the house... I mean... what's on there? And what about my experiences when I feel something really bad has happened to a close relative and they actually had? I'm not an avid worrier or anything... it's not like I have these thoughts all the time... the rare occasions when I have had a bit of a panic over someone, 80% of the time something bad *has* happened?

Odd? I think so! And about the medium... my Pa thought it was a pile of codswallop. Utter trash. The first person didn't get given any wonga just was thrown out. The second said not to bother (a friend of a family member). So there was no money incentive. Why did it all stop happening the day my Dad went nuts in my room (something he said he felt stupid doing but thought he had to try as he was starting to really worry about things that were happening around me (plus the leccy bills were stupid

))? I never knew he did that... so why did it stop?

It's all bit too coincidental to me for that to happen and it be nothing more than me being electrically more charged than your average person

I think, like Nokkon, with religion/afterlife and anything like that for me I try and explain it as much as I can scientifically and believe most of it must be able to have some form of non paranormal explanation... but I don't and won't ever shut out the possibility that *something* paranormal may be going on. That would make me... very closed minded which I don't like to be!

Slinwagh · 12-03-2009, 11:27

Just because something happens that you can't explain doesn't mean that it was the act of some "God" or higher being.

As for the afterlife, I considered that to be a way for people not to have to deal with death, people die, they are dead, none of this gone to sleep, passed away, passed over to the other side rhetoric that you hear.

Pheebs · 12-03-2009, 11:57

Slinwagh... I don't know whether you were suggesting that's what I thought... the things which I've experienced I wouldn't put down to God say (I'm not even convinced he exists) but I think they may have something slightly paranormal about it.

Dunno. As said, I don't think I am able to dismiss the possibility of there being higher beings/paranormal things

11-03-2009, 20:32	#31
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	Also had a lot of odd things like an 18ft flaming Satan in my room. Room crullign with snakes from when I was around 4 and having nightly injections in my stomach from 3 "alien" doctors, I put it down to sleep paralysis. Scarred the hell out of me when I was younger until I saw a documentary on sleep paralysis. it suddenly all made os much sense and rarely get hem anymore. __________________

11-03-2009, 20:41	#32
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	I get sleep paralysis! I had it the other night in fact! Picky and his green eyes trying to kill me Boo! Things I've seen has been when I've been as bright as rain! No illness or nada... very odd! __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

12-03-2009, 09:30	#36
NokkonWud BD Recruitment Officer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Smogville Posts: 3,880	I don't follow any religion, nor necessarily believe in any one God, but I wouldn't want to be labelled an Atheist as I do have the ability to believe in someone or something and my impression of Atheism is that you shut out the possibility of anything like that, and that seems a little sad and depressing to me. __________________

12-03-2009, 10:54	#38
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	As said, the oven I can kind of pass off as coincidence. The other stuff when I was younger though was... weird. If professional electricians can find nothing wrong with the house... I mean... what's on there? And what about my experiences when I feel something really bad has happened to a close relative and they actually had? I'm not an avid worrier or anything... it's not like I have these thoughts all the time... the rare occasions when I have had a bit of a panic over someone, 80% of the time something bad has happened? Odd? I think so! And about the medium... my Pa thought it was a pile of codswallop. Utter trash. The first person didn't get given any wonga just was thrown out. The second said not to bother (a friend of a family member). So there was no money incentive. Why did it all stop happening the day my Dad went nuts in my room (something he said he felt stupid doing but thought he had to try as he was starting to really worry about things that were happening around me (plus the leccy bills were stupid ))? I never knew he did that... so why did it stop? It's all bit too coincidental to me for that to happen and it be nothing more than me being electrically more charged than your average person I think, like Nokkon, with religion/afterlife and anything like that for me I try and explain it as much as I can scientifically and believe most of it must be able to have some form of non paranormal explanation... but I don't and won't ever shut out the possibility that something paranormal may be going on. That would make me... very closed minded which I don't like to be! __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

12-03-2009, 11:57	#40
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	Slinwagh... I don't know whether you were suggesting that's what I thought... the things which I've experienced I wouldn't put down to God say (I'm not even convinced he exists) but I think they may have something slightly paranormal about it. Dunno. As said, I don't think I am able to dismiss the possibility of there being higher beings/paranormal things __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

12-03-2009, 11:27	#39
Slinwagh Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 107	Just because something happens that you can't explain doesn't mean that it was the act of some "God" or higher being. As for the afterlife, I considered that to be a way for people not to have to deal with death, people die, they are dead, none of this gone to sleep, passed away, passed over to the other side rhetoric that you hear.