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Pickers · 01-06-2007, 12:11

RIght - BSOD which froze:-

health check screen immediately after reboot

Upon getting back into windows and going to event logger, the system BSOD'd again but this time appeared to complete the dump and rebooted itself
(I noticed this time it didnt say "driver_IRQL..." etc, but was something different, which I didnt manage to catch. When I got back into windows and event viewer, I couldn't find the dump from this

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Daz · 01-06-2007, 12:15

The system isn't stable Picks, nothing in a crash dump will help you. I'll let someone with more experience comment on those voltages, it's not something I've had to look at for a very long time.

Pickers · 23-06-2007, 16:10

just tried a differnt PSU and it still crashed... now installing XP home to see if its software issues...
if this doesnt work, will try adding a gfx and scrapping the onboard
if that doesnt work.. well.. I'm stumped

It would appear that xp runs without crashing...
Now, my dilema.

the second computer currently had XP installed - so I will have to uninstall it if I keep the media PC with XP installed otherwise I have 2 xp installs on the same product key.

Do I install vista onto the other PC and try it out?
Problem then is that there are no drivers for the Printer currently connected for vista (RX420)
... and I have an old version of office (like, 2000 or something) which I'm not sure will run on vista.

ARGH!!!

mejinks · 23-06-2007, 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pickers

just tried a differnt PSU and it still crashed... now installing XP home to see if its software issues...
if this doesnt work, will try adding a gfx and scrapping the onboard
if that doesnt work.. well.. I'm stumped

It would appear that xp runs without crashing...
Now, my dilema.

the second computer currently had XP installed - so I will have to uninstall it if I keep the media PC with XP installed otherwise I have 2 xp installs on the same product key.

Do I install vista onto the other PC and try it out?
Problem then is that there are no drivers for the Printer currently connected for vista (RX420)
... and I have an old version of office (like, 2000 or something) which I'm not sure will run on vista.

ARGH!!!

If you want to run XP instead of Vista, thats fine as long as you have a valid copy of Vista. You just need to ring Microsoft for a new activation key. I believe this is called a downgrade and a lot of people are doing this because Visat is a pile of pants atm.

Remind us again of what components you have? What processor, board, ram

Pickers · 23-06-2007, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by mejinks

If you want to run XP instead of Vista, thats fine as long as you have a valid copy of Vista. You just need to ring Microsoft for a new activation key. I believe this is called a downgrade and a lot of people are doing this because Visat is a pile of pants atm.

Remind us again of what components you have? What processor, board, ram

So I ring up microsoft, and the VSITA key that I have will work for windows XP? WIll I be able to use it for vista at a later date for free?

Specs:
Abit NF-M2 nview board (onboard geforce 6250 or something)
AMD x2 4600+
2gig generic ram
180Gig SATA II seagate HDD
erm.. thats it...

mejinks · 23-06-2007, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pickers

So I ring up microsoft, and the VSITA key that I have will work for windows XP? WIll I be able to use it for vista at a later date for free?

No, you get a new key off Microsoft for XP and then when you wish to upgrade to Vista, you use the original key I believe.

Pickers · 23-06-2007, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mejinks

No, you get a new key off Microsoft for XP and then when you wish to upgrade to Vista, you use the original key I believe.

Cool - could I downgrade to XP pro 64 bit?
Edit: forget that, I dont have the install disc for that

Stan_Lite · 23-06-2007, 20:13

Haven't looked at this thread for a while.

A couple of things to try:

1) Your Vcore looks to be a bit low (4600+ stock Vcore is 1.30V iirc) try upping that to 1.30 or so - also, your RAM (DDR2) voltage is a bit low - try putting that up to 2.1V or so.

2) Try updating the BIOS for your motherboard -maybe a newer BIOS will be more "Vista friendly".

I haven't been able to find any compatibility issues with your board and Vista (apparently the Vista drivers work better with the onboard graphics than the Nvidia ones).

If none of that works, we'll have another look.

Stan

Pickers · 23-06-2007, 20:16

Cheers Stan - it all seems stable uinder XP so I may stick with that for now

Will make note of all suggestions for the future though

Stan_Lite · 23-06-2007, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pickers

Cheers Stan - it all seems stable uinder XP so I may stick with that for now

Will make note of all suggestions for the future though

Fair enough.
1) probably wouldn't make any difference under Vista - I just thought it would be something to try.
2) probably would make a difference - so, if you do decide to try again with the same rig, try that first

Stan

01-06-2007, 12:11	#31
Pickers Absinthe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,692	RIght - BSOD which froze:- health check screen immediately after reboot Upon getting back into windows and going to event logger, the system BSOD'd again but this time appeared to complete the dump and rebooted itself (I noticed this time it didnt say "driver_IRQL..." etc, but was something different, which I didnt manage to catch. When I got back into windows and event viewer, I couldn't find the dump from this . __________________ Pictures

01-06-2007, 12:15	#32
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	The system isn't stable Picks, nothing in a crash dump will help you. I'll let someone with more experience comment on those voltages, it's not something I've had to look at for a very long time. __________________ apt-get moo

23-06-2007, 16:10	#33
Pickers Absinthe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,692	just tried a differnt PSU and it still crashed... now installing XP home to see if its software issues... if this doesnt work, will try adding a gfx and scrapping the onboard if that doesnt work.. well.. I'm stumped It would appear that xp runs without crashing... Now, my dilema. the second computer currently had XP installed - so I will have to uninstall it if I keep the media PC with XP installed otherwise I have 2 xp installs on the same product key. Do I install vista onto the other PC and try it out? Problem then is that there are no drivers for the Printer currently connected for vista (RX420) ... and I have an old version of office (like, 2000 or something) which I'm not sure will run on vista. ARGH!!! __________________ Pictures Last edited by Pickers; 23-06-2007 at 17:14.

23-06-2007, 20:13	#38
Stan_Lite Stan, Stan the FLASHER MAN! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In bed with your sister Posts: 5,483	Haven't looked at this thread for a while. A couple of things to try: 1) Your Vcore looks to be a bit low (4600+ stock Vcore is 1.30V iirc) try upping that to 1.30 or so - also, your RAM (DDR2) voltage is a bit low - try putting that up to 2.1V or so. 2) Try updating the BIOS for your motherboard -maybe a newer BIOS will be more "Vista friendly". I haven't been able to find any compatibility issues with your board and Vista (apparently the Vista drivers work better with the onboard graphics than the Nvidia ones). If none of that works, we'll have another look. Stan __________________ Just because I have a short attention span doesn't mean I...

23-06-2007, 20:16	#39
Pickers Absinthe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,692	Cheers Stan - it all seems stable uinder XP so I may stick with that for now Will make note of all suggestions for the future though __________________ Pictures