Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - Page 4

Chuckles · 23-05-2008, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muban

I think some people had quite a lot of pre-conceptions about it anyway.

Yeah, I expected it to be good

LeperousDust · 23-05-2008, 19:42

My mates have just went to see this, it really isn't my type of film at all and i know i wont like it

I'm putting it on par with SATC its going to make money either way and have lovers and haters, this is aimed squarely at a male audience, SATC at the femail audience.

I'm not really a fan of the big just for entertainment films really

divine · 23-05-2008, 22:37

At least it's acceptable for girls to go watch IJ, if a guy wants to see SATC he better hope he has a GF he can use as an excuse, cos 'I fancy Charlotte' ain't gonna wash and everyone will just assume 'gay'

LeperousDust · 23-05-2008, 23:40

TBH Rambo was actually more my argument when i first used it, but i still think its similar with this film, yes they'd tried to broaden horizons with Ford, but its still a "guy" film through and through, and its still s***

Piggymon · 25-05-2008, 18:27

Going to see this tomorrow \o/

Feek · 25-05-2008, 19:05

I took the family to see this today, we got up nice and early and had a trip up to the UGC in Ipswich.

I enjoyed it - It didn't keep looking at my watch so it was the right length and although the plot was explained as it went along I didn't find it as irritating as I have in other films that have to explain what's happening. Reading some reviews, one would think this is the worst film ever!

I just sat and watched a film telling a story. I didn't think too much about the history of Indiana Jones or compare it to the previous films in the franchise and I didn't think about how much CGI there was. I just watched a film to be entertained and I was entertained. So therefore it was good.

Belmit · 26-05-2008, 15:09

Just saw it. Will probably go and see it again.

I'll get the bad out the way first:
Spoiler Alert! - Highlight below to read!

- Although only approximately 30% of the stuntwork was CGI, it was too noticeable. No need for the marmots at all.

- The chase scene in the jungle was about twice as long as it needed to be, and felt too planned because of it with the set pieces.

- We learned too much at the end. The previous films based on the supernatural (Ark, Crusade) left the actual hocus pocus right up until the end, then snatched it away as we got a glimpse of it. With this one we got right into the belly of the beast and the characters all leave knowing exactly what was going on. I think it could have been done more subtly.

- No secondary baddie. It never really felt like the enemy was breathing down their necks enough because it was only ever one person after them with goons. And the 'leave Indy to solve it then follow him in with guns' bit has been done too much.

- Monkeys. **** off.

- JANITOR!... and Alan Dale? What the hell?

- Drink every time Ray Winstone yells 'Jonesey!'.

End Spoiler Alert!

But the good:
Spoiler Alert! - Highlight below to read!

- Although protracted at times, the dialogue stayed familiar to the originals, although the two-ways between Marion and Indy made me long for more of the same, as per the previous films (taken up in Crusade by Sean Connery). A lot of the humour derived from the conflict in the previous movies.

- Even though the archeology/history is fairly embellished, I like that the characters at least sound knowledgeable enough to work things out, as with the riddle Oxley sends Indy. It's that feeling that only Indy would be able to work it out because he knows his friend, who in turn knows that only Indy would be able to work it out.

- John Hurt is superb, and plays a more than fitting replacement for ditsy Denholm Elliott's character.

- Mostly proper stunts done by proper living people. You can tell that Harrison Ford just jumped between two trucks, and that makes a difference.

- Shia LeBoeuf doesn't spoil it, but could have done the bad-boy bit better. He never really feels like the greaser he's meant to be. He was alright.

- The music. Faultless as ever, and not just the main theme.

- Harrison. It's still the same character regardless of his age, and I never felt like he couldn't do the things he was doing... because he was FFS!

- Man in fridge go boom. When the sirens went off I thought 'Get the **** out of this one Jones!'. And he did. Fair play.

End Spoiler Alert!

So overall I'm happy. I get the feeling Lucas had too much of an influence over it due to making similar mistakes to the new Star Wars films though. Luckily Spielberg seems to have had a word with him though, even if he couldn't talk him out of the ****ing CGI marmots.

Six fedoras out of seven.

Haly · 26-05-2008, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Belmit

Spoiler Alert! - Highlight below to read!

- JANITOR!... and Alan Dale? What the hell?

End Spoiler Alert!

That was exactly what I thought when I saw it

Ruined that scene a bit for me as I just couldn't take it seriously

Pumpkinstew · 29-05-2008, 19:23

No where near as a big a let down as Phantom Menace.

You know if this film had been released without Indy in it I'd have loved it. If it had been the Mummy 3 - Mummies go Inca! with Brendan Fraser I'd have loved it.
But it felt like someone had got my senile old gran out of the care home and put a wooden spoon in her hand and screamed 'MAKE FRUIT CAKE LIKE YOU DID BEFORE YOU WENT OLD AND BATTY!'. Time moves on and sometimes it's better to just leave things be.
I did enjoy it but I left feeling I'd be happier if there were still only three Indy films.

MarcLister · 29-05-2008, 22:29

Forgot about this thread.

Saw this yesterday and thought it was pretty good and would give it 7 or 7.5/10. My mate didn't like it, got very fidgity and gave it 6 or 6.5/10.

23-05-2008, 19:42	#32
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	My mates have just went to see this, it really isn't my type of film at all and i know i wont like it I'm putting it on par with SATC its going to make money either way and have lovers and haters, this is aimed squarely at a male audience, SATC at the femail audience. I'm not really a fan of the big just for entertainment films really __________________

23-05-2008, 22:37	#33
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	At least it's acceptable for girls to go watch IJ, if a guy wants to see SATC he better hope he has a GF he can use as an excuse, cos 'I fancy Charlotte' ain't gonna wash and everyone will just assume 'gay' __________________

23-05-2008, 23:40	#34
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	TBH Rambo was actually more my argument when i first used it, but i still think its similar with this film, yes they'd tried to broaden horizons with Ford, but its still a "guy" film through and through, and its still s*** __________________

25-05-2008, 18:27	#35
Piggymon Lara Croft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PigmoPad - Braintree Essex Posts: 8,604	Going to see this tomorrow \o/ __________________ BF% 28/08/08 - 21%

25-05-2008, 19:05	#36
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	I took the family to see this today, we got up nice and early and had a trip up to the UGC in Ipswich. I enjoyed it - It didn't keep looking at my watch so it was the right length and although the plot was explained as it went along I didn't find it as irritating as I have in other films that have to explain what's happening. Reading some reviews, one would think this is the worst film ever! I just sat and watched a film telling a story. I didn't think too much about the history of Indiana Jones or compare it to the previous films in the franchise and I didn't think about how much CGI there was. I just watched a film to be entertained and I was entertained. So therefore it was good. __________________

26-05-2008, 15:09	#37
Belmit The Mouse King of Denmark Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Winchester Posts: 6,476	Just saw it. Will probably go and see it again. I'll get the bad out the way first: Spoiler Alert! - Highlight below to read! - Although only approximately 30% of the stuntwork was CGI, it was too noticeable. No need for the marmots at all. - The chase scene in the jungle was about twice as long as it needed to be, and felt too planned because of it with the set pieces. - We learned too much at the end. The previous films based on the supernatural (Ark, Crusade) left the actual hocus pocus right up until the end, then snatched it away as we got a glimpse of it. With this one we got right into the belly of the beast and the characters all leave knowing exactly what was going on. I think it could have been done more subtly. - No secondary baddie. It never really felt like the enemy was breathing down their necks enough because it was only ever one person after them with goons. And the 'leave Indy to solve it then follow him in with guns' bit has been done too much. - Monkeys. ** off. - JANITOR!... and Alan Dale? What the hell? - Drink every time Ray Winstone yells 'Jonesey!'. End Spoiler Alert! But the good: Spoiler Alert! - Highlight below to read! - Although protracted at times, the dialogue stayed familiar to the originals, although the two-ways between Marion and Indy made me long for more of the same, as per the previous films (taken up in Crusade by Sean Connery). A lot of the humour derived from the conflict in the previous movies. - Even though the archeology/history is fairly embellished, I like that the characters at least sound knowledgeable enough to work things out, as with the riddle Oxley sends Indy. It's that feeling that only Indy would be able to work it out because he knows his friend, who in turn knows that only Indy would be able to work it out. - John Hurt is superb, and plays a more than fitting replacement for ditsy Denholm Elliott's character. - Mostly proper stunts done by proper living people. You can tell that Harrison Ford just jumped between two trucks, and that makes a difference. - Shia LeBoeuf doesn't spoil it, but could have done the bad-boy bit better. He never really feels like the greaser he's meant to be. He was alright. - The music. Faultless as ever, and not just the main theme. - Harrison. It's still the same character regardless of his age, and I never felt like he couldn't do the things he was doing... because he was FFS! - Man in fridge go boom. When the sirens went off I thought 'Get the out of this one Jones!'. And he did. Fair play. End Spoiler Alert! So overall I'm happy. I get the feeling Lucas had too much of an influence over it due to making similar mistakes to the new Star Wars films though. Luckily Spielberg seems to have had a word with him though, even if he couldn't talk him out of the **ing CGI marmots. Six fedoras out of seven. __________________

29-05-2008, 19:23	#39
Pumpkinstew Absinthe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mostly Oxford, Sometimes Bristol Posts: 1,156	No where near as a big a let down as Phantom Menace. You know if this film had been released without Indy in it I'd have loved it. If it had been the Mummy 3 - Mummies go Inca! with Brendan Fraser I'd have loved it. But it felt like someone had got my senile old gran out of the care home and put a wooden spoon in her hand and screamed 'MAKE FRUIT CAKE LIKE YOU DID BEFORE YOU WENT OLD AND BATTY!'. Time moves on and sometimes it's better to just leave things be. I did enjoy it but I left feeling I'd be happier if there were still only three Indy films. __________________ Get old, or die tryin' PSTEWREVIEWS - Chunks of Meaty Reviews, Mixed with Your Five a Day of News, Comment and Opinion, Floating in a Broth of Suspect Grammar and Seasoned Liberally with Mixed Metaphor. Tasty.

29-05-2008, 22:29	#40
MarcLister Absinthe Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Leighton Buzzard Posts: 1,282	Forgot about this thread. Saw this yesterday and thought it was pretty good and would give it 7 or 7.5/10. My mate didn't like it, got very fidgity and gave it 6 or 6.5/10. __________________ Website (sod all on there!) \| MSN \| Email