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Old 08-05-2008, 15:09   #31
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Caffine?
What about it? If you're asking if I drink it, only the small amounts that are in Pepsi/Coke, I don't drink coffee. I don't think it should be banned if that's what you're asking.
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Old 08-05-2008, 15:11   #32
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But caffine is a drug....
An addictive one at that.
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Old 08-05-2008, 15:18   #33
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Perhaps, but I'm sure you understood that when I mentioned drugs I was on about narcotics such as cocaine, heroin and the like, not stuff like caffine.
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Old 08-05-2008, 15:42   #34
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I think smoking ANY substance should be illegal.

As for Cannabis to band B though... not sure. There's obviously some reasoning behind it.

Is it just the smoking or is it the drug use? Couple of my friends turn all their weed into butter and put a lump in a mug of hot chocolate. Takes longer for the high to hit but you get hte endorphines from the chocolate in the mean time
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Old 08-05-2008, 17:19   #35
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Same here, I also think every drug should be illegal and stay that way. Given that I don't smoke and barely drink though, I admit to having a fairly limited view on it which is why I try not to get dragged into arguments/discussions about it.
Caffeine?

//Edit: Thats silly, i should have scrolled down before i replied
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Old 08-05-2008, 17:24   #36
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Perhaps, but I'm sure you understood that when I mentioned drugs I was on about narcotics such as cocaine, heroin and the like, not stuff like caffine.
So it's just the untaxed drugs then?
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Old 08-05-2008, 18:55   #37
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So it's just the untaxed drugs then?
Given that untaxed drugs covers everything illegal, I'd say yes, and add cigarettes into the mix as well. I'd be happy with that.
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Old 08-05-2008, 20:10   #38
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What difference does it make whether cannabis is harmful to the individual or not? Do you really want a government ciminalising you for taking something that won't harm anyone but yourself? I'd rather make my own decisions as to what I can or can't do with my own body.

Don't vote for "Call me Dave" on the basis of reclassifying cannabis though! He has no policies other than "Not being Gordon Brown".

Why don't you consider voting LD who actually have some fairly decent policies and sensible views on self ownership?
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Old 08-05-2008, 20:16   #39
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What difference does it make whether cannabis is harmful to the individual or not? Do you really want a government ciminalising you for taking something that won't harm anyone but yourself? I'd rather make my own decisions as to what I can or can't do with my own body.
Couldn't you make that same argument about every drug though? Do you want to legalise the whole lot?
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Old 08-05-2008, 20:16   #40
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When he came to (unelected) power....
Remember that we don't vote for presidents. In 2005 you would have voted for your choice of MP to represent your constituency in Parliament. In turn, the Labour Party membership elect their choice of leader. The two things are not synonymous. Furthermore, Tony Blair made it clear well before he resigned that he would be stepping down during that term and they party still received the required mandate in 2005.
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