Fur Back in Fashion? - Page 4

Feek · 19-10-2008, 12:56

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Originally Posted by phykell

I find your lack of empathy for other animals (which we all are), disturbing

You know full well I'm talking about non humans.

Piggymon · 19-10-2008, 15:42

I am a meat eater and always will be but I would still prefer it if my meat and eggs came from an animal which wasn't treated inhumanly.

I always buy free range eggs and wherever possible free range chicken.

Just read up about Foie Gras and I personally find the thought of force feeding an animal disgusting.

Yes we are the top of the food chain, yes we breed animals for food but WE are the supposed intelligent beings who should be treating our food sources with respect and compassion.

Will · 19-10-2008, 16:07

I will buy free range because a) it tastes better and b) because I believe that an unhappy animal is less likely to have good nutrients and carry more fat (actually it's been proven). For me it's purely from a nutritional point of view that I care how the animals are treated. Unnecessary cruelty, i.e. just kicking an animal for the sake of it, is somewhat off - just like bullying in general, however breeding/raising them for a purpose to be is completely different and frankly I don't feel that strongly about it.

I will still keep eating meat (but good quality produce) and will still eat foie gras, and happily pay over the odds for it. My gluttony affects only me IMO.

Dymetrie · 19-10-2008, 23:34

I'm actually with Feek on this one.

Yes I find the way in which some animals are bred for fur/skins to be inhumane, but if it wasn't for the fact they were being bred then they wouldn't exist in the same numbers they do now.

I, along with the vast percentage of the population, am an omnivore. This means that along with all the vegetables I eat, I eat meat. This means that I expect other animals to be bred and slaughtered in order for me to eat meat.

Along with this, I wear leather, as much as I can manage to, because it is a durable and insulating material which is a by-product of the meat I eat.

What is the difference between fur and leather? So long as the animal it comes from is being used to its utmost in order to supply clothing and sustenance then what is the problem?

If you're going to single out the fur trade as something to bitch about then why not bitch about whaling, where whales are killed only for their tongues? or for their fats to make soap? or rhinos killed just for their horns? or sharks killed only for their dorsal fins? or the vietnemese eating dogs? Or, for that matter, the millions of chickens, in this country, who are bred and killed just for their meat?

phykell · 20-10-2008, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Dymetrie

I'm actually with Feek on this one.

What? That the suffering of animals is of no consequence? Do you agree with that?

Dymetrie · 20-10-2008, 07:03

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Originally Posted by phykell

What? That the suffering of animals is of no consequence? Do you agree with that?

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Originally Posted by Feek

Doesn't bother me in the slightest, the whole breeding animals for a purpose thing has never worried me at all and I'm certainly not bothered by the thought of animals suffering.

This.

Animals bred for a purpose, that purpose being to feed and clothe people.

Piggymon · 20-10-2008, 07:12

And it's ok that the animal is made to suffer for the sake of it's fur ? :/

Dymetrie · 20-10-2008, 07:22

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Originally Posted by Piggymon

And it's ok that the animal is made to suffer for the sake of it's fur ? :/

At what point did either myself or Feek say that?

Not being bothered about something is not the same as condoning it. It's merely indifference.

Piggymon · 20-10-2008, 07:30

You said you didn't have a problem with it so to me not having a problem with something is saying it's ok ?

Anyway, I can't believe people could be indifferent to animals suffering in the way that they do when they are bred for fur and skinned alive.

Matblack · 20-10-2008, 08:26

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Originally Posted by Dymetrie

At what point did either myself or Feek say that?

Not being bothered about something is not the same as condoning it. It's merely indifference.

I personally don't believe that is true, knowing about something which is wrong and not speaking out IS condoning it.

MB

19-10-2008, 15:42	#32
Piggymon Lara Croft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PigmoPad - Braintree Essex Posts: 8,604	I am a meat eater and always will be but I would still prefer it if my meat and eggs came from an animal which wasn't treated inhumanly. I always buy free range eggs and wherever possible free range chicken. Just read up about Foie Gras and I personally find the thought of force feeding an animal disgusting. Yes we are the top of the food chain, yes we breed animals for food but WE are the supposed intelligent beings who should be treating our food sources with respect and compassion. __________________ BF% 28/08/08 - 21%

19-10-2008, 16:07	#33
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	I will buy free range because a) it tastes better and b) because I believe that an unhappy animal is less likely to have good nutrients and carry more fat (actually it's been proven). For me it's purely from a nutritional point of view that I care how the animals are treated. Unnecessary cruelty, i.e. just kicking an animal for the sake of it, is somewhat off - just like bullying in general, however breeding/raising them for a purpose to be is completely different and frankly I don't feel that strongly about it. I will still keep eating meat (but good quality produce) and will still eat foie gras, and happily pay over the odds for it. My gluttony affects only me IMO. __________________ *No No!*

19-10-2008, 23:34	#34
Dymetrie A large glass of Merlot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Letchworth with a Lightsaber Posts: 5,819	I'm actually with Feek on this one. Yes I find the way in which some animals are bred for fur/skins to be inhumane, but if it wasn't for the fact they were being bred then they wouldn't exist in the same numbers they do now. I, along with the vast percentage of the population, am an omnivore. This means that along with all the vegetables I eat, I eat meat. This means that I expect other animals to be bred and slaughtered in order for me to eat meat. Along with this, I wear leather, as much as I can manage to, because it is a durable and insulating material which is a by-product of the meat I eat. What is the difference between fur and leather? So long as the animal it comes from is being used to its utmost in order to supply clothing and sustenance then what is the problem? If you're going to single out the fur trade as something to bitch about then why not bitch about whaling, where whales are killed only for their tongues? or for their fats to make soap? or rhinos killed just for their horns? or sharks killed only for their dorsal fins? or the vietnemese eating dogs? Or, for that matter, the millions of chickens, in this country, who are bred and killed just for their meat? __________________ Khef, Ka and Ka-Tet....

20-10-2008, 07:12	#37
Piggymon Lara Croft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PigmoPad - Braintree Essex Posts: 8,604	And it's ok that the animal is made to suffer for the sake of it's fur ? :/ __________________ BF% 28/08/08 - 21%

20-10-2008, 07:30	#39
Piggymon Lara Croft Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: PigmoPad - Braintree Essex Posts: 8,604	You said you didn't have a problem with it so to me not having a problem with something is saying it's ok ? Anyway, I can't believe people could be indifferent to animals suffering in the way that they do when they are bred for fur and skinned alive. __________________ BF% 28/08/08 - 21%