Has he been sacked yet ?

[Daz]

Pretty gutted about the loss, the tournament just wont be the same next year without being able to shout for any of the home nations let alone England. McLaren should have gone, he has to live and die by his decisions and the calls he's made during the qualifying campaign haven't been the right ones. And indeed like Rich said, we played better when the decisions were almost taken out of his hands through injuries.

So many times last night I said out loud 'take Lampard off', not because he's a bad player, but because he and Gerrard dont work well together, and with Gerrard holding the vice captaincy the decision is made for you. Carson was a horrible choice, it's fair enough if you have no faith in Robinson, but why not play your number 2 keeper instead of a youth making his competitive debut.

Add in the lack of motivation and drive (which although the players have a lot to answer for here, ultimately the coach has to do something about this) and his often questionable tactics and I dont see how he could stay.

Bring on Jose tbh.

[Will]

They need to do like the did in the rugby, bring an outsider in like Clive Woodward to the rugby team - and do a shake up. Ditch some players, bring in new ones, change the routine etc...

They're still overpaid muppets but at least it might make it more interesting and all the religious* people might start becoming less violent.


* - the hypocrisy that a lot of fans aren't religious yet football is taken more seriously than orthodox religions

[Davey_Pitch]

Originally Posted by Will

* - the hypocrisy that a lot of fans aren't religious yet football is taken more seriously than orthodox religions

To some people football is more important than any religion. It certainly is to me.

[Rich_L]

Thing is, who on earth would want the England job?

The whole English football scene is rotten, the media is full of wannabe managers and pundits who all want to pick the team and are ready to heap scorn on any manager that dares do something different, the ridiculous prejudice against 'foreign' management. The FA is useless, taking an age to come to any decision and preferring to hide behind the players and managers rather than support them. The ridiculous situation where the players in the top teams pick up 'injuries' before friendles so rendering the whole concept of friendlies utterly useless and removing any chance of having a settled team playing together for several games, with the FA just rolling over and ta The fact that the players can't seem to keep the ball in any pressure situation, not to mention the inevitable bottling when it comes to penalties.

We need a strong character as a manager who is willing to take on the Premiership 'elite' managers, who will tell the media in no uncertain terms where to shove it and will cause some ripples within the FA. Mourinho, Lippi or someone who has been at the top would be fantastic, unfortunately we'll probably get someone like Allardyce and continue our run of utter mediocrity.

[Will]

Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

To some people football is more important than any religion. It certainly is to me.

Exactly - that's the hypocrisy. These same people are more religious about football than religious people are about religion, yet they dismiss religion and tend to be the ones that are aggressive and ignorant to other faiths.

[Will]

Get rid of the chairman and all the head honchos and start from scratch I reckon.

[Haly]

Originally Posted by Will

Exactly - that's the hypocrisy. These same people are more religious about football than religious people are about religion, yet they dismiss religion and tend to be the ones that are aggressive and ignorant to other faiths.

Go go sweeping generalisation there

[Desmo]

Originally Posted by Nutcase

In my opinion....

Football is no longer a sport, hasn't been for years. It's a business. If teams could find a way of making the same money without playing a game, they would. No support for home grown players as it's easier to buy in overseas talent. And what players there are, as fantastically overpaid and don't appear to have to answer to poor performances.

That's why I have such a cynical view of the sport.

And I shall also back out from the thread, as true enough, it's not the place for that kind of rant

You're right though IMO. It's one of the reason I've lost total interest in what goes on in football now. I used to play every weekend for 10year running. Would watch all the games for club and national teams, but now, I don't give a rats arse :/

[Feek]

Nutcase is spot on - That's why I lost interest in F1 a few years ago, it's just the same, one huge business.

[Admiral Huddy]

Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

..snip...

I'm going to disagree with you here because although they are great players (and I'd be happy to see them at spurs) they are not world class players and certianly don't warrant the salary/price tag that goes with it.

There are too many English players at all levels that are highly overrated and as I've said, top overseas clubs would rather spend their money on worthy players that work hard at half the rate. I'm concerned that we don't see the english presence abroad like we should. We need to introduce more english players into top flight football both here and abroad.

I do agree that McClaren was a bad appointment and should have gone months ago but whatever manager comes in, he is still presented with the same problems.. limited player choice and that's not going to improve overnight.