Do you consider yourself to be fairly open minded? - Page 5

karbon · 21-07-2008, 11:19

it does not, cannot and will never have an effect on me or my life. ergo, they can do what they want.

but i'm captain open minded

Tak · 21-07-2008, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by starscream

The Old Testimony also states that a menstruating woman is unclean, should be shunned for 7 days and give 2 pigeons and 2 turtles to the priest after she finishes to slaughter.

What?!? ROFL

Rich_L · 21-07-2008, 12:24

Yup all good with me

People loving each other can only be a good thing, and more kudos to them if they do it willingly in the face of possible disapproval. I don't really see it any different to other things that are slightly 'unusual' in society, as an example like a man dating a woman who is a few years older is seen as a bit unusual..but really does it matter in the grand scheme of things? I think not at all, if two people are in a happy, loving relationship then what more is needed?

As mentioned before, sexuality is just another facet, and if a gay person cracks on to me (happened a few times, lol) it's just a compliment, no need to get defensive just a "sorry mate, I like girls!" usually does the trick, although some will have a good go at convincing me to 'have a try', haha!

All good fun though

Chuckles · 21-07-2008, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takhisis

What?!? ROFL

Leviticus:15

Garp · 21-07-2008, 14:17

starscream: I'll try and give an in depth answer tonight, but the short answer is it relates to the difference between Old Law (before Jesus) and the New Law (Jesus), which replaces all the old law. It's a bit more complicated than that though..

Matblack · 21-07-2008, 15:51

Spent some time at the Lovebox festival with our gay friends at the weekend, they are two of the nicest people I know and if them being with each other makes them happy than I'm delighted for them. I have no issues with people disaproving of other people lifestyles as long as they respect their right to do what makes them happy, people who openly insult or "gay bash" are scum and deserve to have their relationships subjected to the same kind of stress.

As for what the bible says, it strikes me that given recent events in the church (trouble at the Lambeth conference I suspect) the professionals don't even know how to translate 'God's word' so how laymen can condemn people based on their own translation is a bit of a mystery. :/

MB

semi-pro waster · 21-07-2008, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matblack

As for what the bible says, it strikes me that given recent events in the church (trouble at the Lambeth conference I suspect) the professionals don't even know how to translate 'God's word' so how laymen can condemn people based on their own translation is a bit of a mystery. :/

MB

Probably (and please forgive the huge generalisation) because those who would condemn someones lifestyle for being different to their own also aren't the type to actually check their facts fully or consider that there could be a legitimate alternative.

An apposite quote from Bertrand Russell - "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.".

Incidentally this thread is banned at work with a page score of >500 - does that constitute homophobia?

Nutcase · 21-07-2008, 18:34

Do I personally think it's wrong? Yes. Do I feel disgusted or offended by same sex relationships? No. Do I think homosexuals are somehow ill/abnormal/confused/etc? No.

I have no problem with same sex relationships and marriages. It's like fishing - I don't understand it

Justsomebloke · 21-07-2008, 19:20

Some Interesting points of view been posted & some surprising ones.
Personally I think growing up in London helped me accept people for what they are rather than be judgemental.
When I was 18 the Best club in Europe was Heaven a Gay club that I used to go regularly on Friday nights. Being over 6ft & Extremely good looking (

) I Always got propositioned & it never bothered me once. One of my best mates brothers is camper than Danny LaRue & I worked with him & all his Queeny mates in a Restaurant down Tottenham court road. We used to get free drinks from the local pub because the landlord fancied Mikey & untold Gayers piling in & hanging out for the day/evening. Then it would be on to a pub crawl round all the Gay bars & back to one of there flats to finish the night off.
I remember a group of Gayers I knew during this era that lived down Buckingham Road, Dalston. On the front door they had The Palace on a sign & were all Blatant Queens

Top bunch of Guys & a great bunch to hang with.
I've been to Heaven, The Elephant & Castle & even the Notorious Black room, Just about every Tranny show around London & just about every gay club an all.
What a lot of you youngsters don't realise is that when I was 18 the Best clubs were gay clubs & it was the gays that started the Rave scene

I was doing speckled Blues & raving all night in Gay clubs when most hadn't even heard of Raves.
For me Gayers are a Fun bunch of Guys who know how to party & I like to Party

My sister turning out to be a raving Lesbo & having a Gay marriage is thought of in the same way as if she was straight & marrying a Dude.
In all honesty I prefer her marrying her current partner as it means I won't have to beat the crap out of any men that Mess her about anymore. Men are ***** when it comes to them dating your little sister.

I won't comment on the Christian view as I just don't understand it. For me being a Christian is all about Forgiveness & acceptance. I would like to say though that your views are respected & very well recieved when given in such a Polite way

Von Smallhausen · 21-07-2008, 19:23

Untold Gayer's ..... LOL.

Mr Diversity.

21-07-2008, 11:19	#41
karbon Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Glasvegas Posts: 475	it does not, cannot and will never have an effect on me or my life. ergo, they can do what they want. but i'm captain open minded __________________

21-07-2008, 12:24	#43
Rich_L Dr Cocktapuss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Seven Sizzles Posts: 1,044	Yup all good with me People loving each other can only be a good thing, and more kudos to them if they do it willingly in the face of possible disapproval. I don't really see it any different to other things that are slightly 'unusual' in society, as an example like a man dating a woman who is a few years older is seen as a bit unusual..but really does it matter in the grand scheme of things? I think not at all, if two people are in a happy, loving relationship then what more is needed? As mentioned before, sexuality is just another facet, and if a gay person cracks on to me (happened a few times, lol) it's just a compliment, no need to get defensive just a "sorry mate, I like girls!" usually does the trick, although some will have a good go at convincing me to 'have a try', haha! All good fun though __________________ Last edited by Rich_L; 21-07-2008 at 12:29.

21-07-2008, 14:17	#45
Garp Preparing more tumbleweed Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 6,038	starscream: I'll try and give an in depth answer tonight, but the short answer is it relates to the difference between Old Law (before Jesus) and the New Law (Jesus), which replaces all the old law. It's a bit more complicated than that though.. __________________ Mal: Define "interesting"? Wash: "Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die"?

21-07-2008, 15:51	#46
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	Spent some time at the Lovebox festival with our gay friends at the weekend, they are two of the nicest people I know and if them being with each other makes them happy than I'm delighted for them. I have no issues with people disaproving of other people lifestyles as long as they respect their right to do what makes them happy, people who openly insult or "gay bash" are scum and deserve to have their relationships subjected to the same kind of stress. As for what the bible says, it strikes me that given recent events in the church (trouble at the Lambeth conference I suspect) the professionals don't even know how to translate 'God's word' so how laymen can condemn people based on their own translation is a bit of a mystery. :/ MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

21-07-2008, 19:20	#49
Justsomebloke The Night Worker Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,228	Some Interesting points of view been posted & some surprising ones. Personally I think growing up in London helped me accept people for what they are rather than be judgemental. When I was 18 the Best club in Europe was Heaven a Gay club that I used to go regularly on Friday nights. Being over 6ft & Extremely good looking () I Always got propositioned & it never bothered me once. One of my best mates brothers is camper than Danny LaRue & I worked with him & all his Queeny mates in a Restaurant down Tottenham court road. We used to get free drinks from the local pub because the landlord fancied Mikey & untold Gayers piling in & hanging out for the day/evening. Then it would be on to a pub crawl round all the Gay bars & back to one of there flats to finish the night off. I remember a group of Gayers I knew during this era that lived down Buckingham Road, Dalston. On the front door they had The Palace on a sign & were all Blatant Queens Top bunch of Guys & a great bunch to hang with. I've been to Heaven, The Elephant & Castle & even the Notorious Black room, Just about every Tranny show around London & just about every gay club an all. What a lot of you youngsters don't realise is that when I was 18 the Best clubs were gay clubs & it was the gays that started the Rave scene I was doing speckled Blues & raving all night in Gay clubs when most hadn't even heard of Raves. For me Gayers are a Fun bunch of Guys who know how to party & I like to Party My sister turning out to be a raving Lesbo & having a Gay marriage is thought of in the same way as if she was straight & marrying a Dude. In all honesty I prefer her marrying her current partner as it means I won't have to beat the crap out of any men that Mess her about anymore. Men are ***** when it comes to them dating your little sister. I won't comment on the Christian view as I just don't understand it. For me being a Christian is all about Forgiveness & acceptance. I would like to say though that your views are respected & very well recieved when given in such a Polite way __________________

21-07-2008, 18:34	#48
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Do I personally think it's wrong? Yes. Do I feel disgusted or offended by same sex relationships? No. Do I think homosexuals are somehow ill/abnormal/confused/etc? No. I have no problem with same sex relationships and marriages. It's like fishing - I don't understand it

21-07-2008, 19:23	#50
Von Smallhausen I'm Free Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tyneside Posts: 3,061	Untold Gayer's ..... LOL. Mr Diversity. __________________ " Well, old bean, life is really so bloody awful that I feel it’s my absolute duty to be chirpy and try and make everybody else happy too." David Niven, 1910-1983.