So sad - Page 5

Psymonkee · 08-10-2008, 02:34

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Originally Posted by Pebs

Why do you need to overtake if they're travelling at the speed limit?

OK, Im not going to preach, I speed and I have the points to prove it, but TRIPLE the speed limit? Thats just insanely irresponsible.

Because they are in all likelyhood plain scaring me.

If someone is travelling at or below the speed limit and wandering around their lane or pointing at random things at the side of the road (not paying attention to the job at hand) then as far as I'm concerned their fair game.

As for speeding? It's kinda fun

Also I feel when I'm traveling at speed I actually concentrate more on the road and the potential hazards. Noticeable on the motorways especially. If I sit in traffic I get bored and get lazy. If I 'speed' I make progress and keep my mind active.

(I also pray I reach the next petrol station after the fuel light comes on

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Garp · 08-10-2008, 08:44

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Originally Posted by divine

Why is 100mph necessarily 'insane' on what may well be a virtually empty, mostly straight road, in a well looked after car?

Show me someone competent of making such an informed decision and I'll show you 30 or 40 who aren't. They're the ones that cause the speed limits to exist

Will · 08-10-2008, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Garp

Show me someone competent of making such an informed decision and I'll show you 30 or 40 who aren't. They're the ones that cause the speed limits to exist

Me. And I'm sure a few others on here are competent.

Pebs · 08-10-2008, 21:20

Never mind.

PvtPyle · 08-10-2008, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Pebs

Never mind.

CBS, is that you in there!?!?!!?!?!

Will · 08-10-2008, 21:32

It is different. Drinking affects your ability and impares judgement, even at low speeds. Sober one wouldn't necessarily speed in town or around schools or built up areas, however drunk no matter what speed you're doing, ploughing into someone is a lot more likely. Again, sober you would make a judgement call to go for a blast on an empty country road. Yes you may get it wrong, and yes you may have a blow out, and you might even win the lottery, but you'd be in a better condition for correcting it and taking a better and speedier instinctive reaction to the problem than if you were over the limit.

Ultimately, your reactions and your ability to control a vehicle whether above or at or nbelow the speed limit under the infulence of drugs or alcohol is hugely affected. Driving over the speed limit, whilst still illegal, holds more discretion (fortunately for me, as I have been pulled a few times (still no points or crashes to this date)) as you driving can be evaluated and if deemed in control and with good observation you may get away with a telling off, or just 3 points and small fine which is acceptable. Driving like a tool in conditions that are not suitable I agree is just as stupid as staring down the barrel of a loaded gun about to fire.

I don't think we'll agree on this - but whilst I don't purposely go over the speed limit in town or at times, and if I ever do make the conscious decision of daring to cruise at 85 on the motorway I can assure you that if I were the people driving around me, I'd rather be around me than someone that has drunk too much and I reckon 9/10 people would too, except for you maybe

I'm not saying I'm a driving god, I've been in hairy/sticky situations a few times, but I know how to handle a car - ok no where near like Colin McRae (RIP) but probably better than the average road user - I make my decisions as an adult, just as I make the decision to jump out of plane with a hangover. I'm confident in my ability to land and do all my drill for opening my chute, as I am ensuring my car is in good condition and know how to use it.

Sure you probably think I'm being ignorant and arrogant... but meh, we just have different attitudes to driving.

Garp · 08-10-2008, 21:37

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Originally Posted by Will

Me. And I'm sure a few others on here are competent.

I think you missed my point entirely. "Show me someone competent of making such an informed decision and I'll show you 30 or 40 who aren't"
I'm not questioning whether you are competent yourself, just making the point that a good majority of drivers on the road are categorically not capable of judging a safe speed if left to their own judgement.
I'd say you're more likely to have a better feel for judging the road than I do, given your experience of riding motorbikes in all conditions, for example. Most people that have ridden motorbikes will be better than those drivers that haven't; however like with cars, there are riders and there are riders

Will · 08-10-2008, 21:38

Sorry

Very tired and feeling a bit grrrrr at hte moment.

I get you now - and yes I agree.

Pebs · 08-10-2008, 21:38

Like I said never mind.

Will · 08-10-2008, 21:39

Don't worry I don't

08-10-2008, 21:20	#44
Pebs Easymouth Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,716	Never mind. __________________ ...faster you naughty little monkey! Running through hell, heaven can wait! Last edited by Pebs; 08-10-2008 at 21:24.

08-10-2008, 21:32	#46
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	It is different. Drinking affects your ability and impares judgement, even at low speeds. Sober one wouldn't necessarily speed in town or around schools or built up areas, however drunk no matter what speed you're doing, ploughing into someone is a lot more likely. Again, sober you would make a judgement call to go for a blast on an empty country road. Yes you may get it wrong, and yes you may have a blow out, and you might even win the lottery, but you'd be in a better condition for correcting it and taking a better and speedier instinctive reaction to the problem than if you were over the limit. Ultimately, your reactions and your ability to control a vehicle whether above or at or nbelow the speed limit under the infulence of drugs or alcohol is hugely affected. Driving over the speed limit, whilst still illegal, holds more discretion (fortunately for me, as I have been pulled a few times (still no points or crashes to this date)) as you driving can be evaluated and if deemed in control and with good observation you may get away with a telling off, or just 3 points and small fine which is acceptable. Driving like a tool in conditions that are not suitable I agree is just as stupid as staring down the barrel of a loaded gun about to fire. I don't think we'll agree on this - but whilst I don't purposely go over the speed limit in town or at times, and if I ever do make the conscious decision of daring to cruise at 85 on the motorway I can assure you that if I were the people driving around me, I'd rather be around me than someone that has drunk too much and I reckon 9/10 people would too, except for you maybe I'm not saying I'm a driving god, I've been in hairy/sticky situations a few times, but I know how to handle a car - ok no where near like Colin McRae (RIP) but probably better than the average road user - I make my decisions as an adult, just as I make the decision to jump out of plane with a hangover. I'm confident in my ability to land and do all my drill for opening my chute, as I am ensuring my car is in good condition and know how to use it. Sure you probably think I'm being ignorant and arrogant... but meh, we just have different attitudes to driving. __________________ *No No!*

08-10-2008, 21:38	#48
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	Sorry Very tired and feeling a bit grrrrr at hte moment. I get you now - and yes I agree. __________________ *No No!*

08-10-2008, 21:38	#49
Pebs Easymouth Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,716	Like I said never mind. __________________ ...faster you naughty little monkey! Running through hell, heaven can wait!

08-10-2008, 21:39	#50
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	Don't worry I don't __________________ *No No!*