iPhone 4S and iPad 2 Jailbreak - Page 6

Mark · 31-01-2012, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Place of Light

Ultimately the customer benefits from fierce competition.
Let the tech wars begin.

The patent wars have to end first. Steve Jobs may have been prepared to give every last cent to his lawyers in an attempt to destroy Android, but all that does is fill the pockets of the lawyers and stifle innovation for everyone else. Lose lose, for everyone (just look at Apple's Notification Center if you want proof of that - Android got there first, by a long way).

Yes, IP needs to be protected against blatant theft, but there are only so many ways a finger can interact with a widget on a screen, for example.

Will · 31-01-2012, 09:11

If the iphone presented the opportunity for storage or a filing system on the phone (i.e. documents) then it would be the complete package - but you can't and I often want to carry info around, and it's annoying that I have to email myself a copy of something.

Toby · 31-01-2012, 12:51

I agree that Apple pinched the concept for the notification system from Android, and a good job too as the pre-iOS5 system looked a nightmare.

That said, they took it and, in my view, radically improved it. The way notifications are listed on the lock screen and you can slide on any one of them to unlock and go directly to that item is superb. Very intuitive and very handy.

My Android phone didn't do this. It's quite possible I could have found some piece of add-on software which would have achieved the same but why should I have to? This is the key difference for me - Apple may lock you into their way of thinking and doing things but, more often than not, "their way" works superbly well for 99.9% of people and is thus a lot less hassle than trying to configure it all yourself.

If you like having a phone you can tinker with endlessly and customise extensively then Android is no doubt the better choice but, for the vast vast majority of people, Apple seem to get things pretty much spot on.

Kitten · 31-01-2012, 13:39

I just touch on the a notification in the list and it takes me to the relevant post/app/whatever...is this what you mean? if so, functionality was on this s2 before io5 release so thats another timing issue. Apologies if you mean something else.

Sent from my Galaxy S2

Dymetrie · 31-01-2012, 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitten

I just touch on the a notification in the list and it takes me to the relevant post/app/whatever...is this what you mean? if so, functionality was on this s2 before io5 release so thats another timing issue. Apologies if you mean something else.

Sent from my Galaxy S2

Is that from a locked, or unlocked, screen though?

Toby is talking about navigating to places from the lock screen.

LeperousDust · 31-01-2012, 16:49

Yeah it's been like that since the touchwiz interface from samsung (but not on HTC Sense which is what everyone assumes android is). So my Samsung Galaxy S of mid 2010 had that

Kitten · 31-01-2012, 17:37

from locked... I get a list of notifications and can unlock by choosing one. Also though I'm not that lazy that one finger movement would determine the phone I buy though

Sent from my Galaxy S2

Toby · 31-01-2012, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitten

I just touch on the a notification in the list and it takes me to the relevant post/app/whatever...is this what you mean? if so, functionality was on this s2 before io5 release so thats another timing issue. Apologies if you mean something else.

Ah right, is that on the lock screen?

Never had that on my Desire so maybe it's been enhanced a bit in later releases or Samsung have added their own enhancements.

EDIT: Must learn to read to end of thread before replying - fail

Dymetrie · 31-01-2012, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitten

from locked... I get a list of notifications and can unlock by choosing one. Also though I'm not that lazy that one finger movement would determine the phone I buy though

Sent from my Galaxy S2

Well, no.

In my eyes the collective aesthetics and ergonomics of the handset and operating system is a major factor in what I buy.

But one feature on its own wouldn't be enough...

divine · 31-01-2012, 21:46

I've been thoroughly annoyed with Apple suing Samsung regarding menus 'bouncing' on my S2.

I updated it yesterday and the most significant change is that the menus no longer bounce.

Bastards

Nevermind, ICS soon (I hope, there are leaked builds so it must be soon... please?)

31-01-2012, 09:11	#52
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	If the iphone presented the opportunity for storage or a filing system on the phone (i.e. documents) then it would be the complete package - but you can't and I often want to carry info around, and it's annoying that I have to email myself a copy of something. __________________ *No No!*

31-01-2012, 12:51	#53
Toby Absinthe Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,023	I agree that Apple pinched the concept for the notification system from Android, and a good job too as the pre-iOS5 system looked a nightmare. That said, they took it and, in my view, radically improved it. The way notifications are listed on the lock screen and you can slide on any one of them to unlock and go directly to that item is superb. Very intuitive and very handy. My Android phone didn't do this. It's quite possible I could have found some piece of add-on software which would have achieved the same but why should I have to? This is the key difference for me - Apple may lock you into their way of thinking and doing things but, more often than not, "their way" works superbly well for 99.9% of people and is thus a lot less hassle than trying to configure it all yourself. If you like having a phone you can tinker with endlessly and customise extensively then Android is no doubt the better choice but, for the vast vast majority of people, Apple seem to get things pretty much spot on. __________________

31-01-2012, 13:39	#54
Kitten Spinky-Spank Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 668. The Neighbour of the Beast Posts: 11,226	I just touch on the a notification in the list and it takes me to the relevant post/app/whatever...is this what you mean? if so, functionality was on this s2 before io5 release so thats another timing issue. Apologies if you mean something else. Sent from my Galaxy S2 __________________ "You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, except for those you accept or create for yourself. Then once it's over... it's over. Dreamless sleep for ever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here?" Nate Fisher

31-01-2012, 16:49	#56
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	Yeah it's been like that since the touchwiz interface from samsung (but not on HTC Sense which is what everyone assumes android is). So my Samsung Galaxy S of mid 2010 had that __________________ Last edited by LeperousDust; 31-01-2012 at 22:12.

31-01-2012, 17:37	#57
Kitten Spinky-Spank Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 668. The Neighbour of the Beast Posts: 11,226	from locked... I get a list of notifications and can unlock by choosing one. Also though I'm not that lazy that one finger movement would determine the phone I buy though Sent from my Galaxy S2 __________________ "You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, except for those you accept or create for yourself. Then once it's over... it's over. Dreamless sleep for ever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here?" Nate Fisher Last edited by Kitten; 31-01-2012 at 17:44.

31-01-2012, 21:46	#60
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	I've been thoroughly annoyed with Apple suing Samsung regarding menus 'bouncing' on my S2. I updated it yesterday and the most significant change is that the menus no longer bounce. Bastards Nevermind, ICS soon (I hope, there are leaked builds so it must be soon... please?) __________________