Apparently someone really doesn't want me to have a server! - Page 6

Daz · 08-07-2008, 10:20

I hope it's presented like that for my benefit only!

LeperousDust · 08-07-2008, 10:36

Cool cool, i'll play, afaik its not plaintext, i've broken my ftp somehow. The setip is a bit weird though, it works as a normal app until i restart then its just a service and i cant confgure it becuase once the app is opened they clash with each other both trying to open separate FTP's. I'll have to look into this..

LeperousDust · 08-07-2008, 10:49

w00t! Apparently, one of my hard drives has failed!

Well that wasn't long, but it can't be the hard drive, i just don't trust *any* of the controllers anymore, the hard drives are old (3-4 years) but their working life has been literally nothing.

I temped fate

//Edit:Oh it gets better, i restart it appears again and two others go missing (both on the same controller). Think I'll have to invest in some controller cards because as it stands on board and PCI are giving me grief.

Burble · 08-07-2008, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

So it still sends the password plaintext? Some security that is then.

Plain text but the channel is already secured with SSL/TLS.

FTPS starts an unencrypted FTP session first and then secures it during the handshaking.

LeperousDust · 08-07-2008, 11:09

From what i've read everything within FTPS is secured which is a little over the top and wastes resources a little. Whereas SFTP is SSHed for authorisation only.

Anyway my FTP is a bug in the software (after all the different stuff i've tried!). Once running as a service it doesn't actually work properly, and you have to kill the service to open the app (nice going dev's) they openly admit its their fault and its been there since 2.2 (its not 2.3! not quite sure why they didnt look into it!). So as it stands theyve told me to add the exe to Run in local machine, but this still means i can't faff around in my remote desktop. Anyway thats probably the least of my worries

Mark · 08-07-2008, 11:37

I seem to recall you've had the whole random disks appearing/disappearing thing before. Wasn't that the reason you ended up trying Ubuntu?

You're not going to like this, but it may be the mobo. I have a P4P800 and even with just the two onboard SATA ports used I have problems. Whenever I do a big file transfer on the SATA disks it kills my networking throughput. :/

LeperousDust · 08-07-2008, 12:03

Noooooooooo i've just changed the ****ing mobo

Don't say that, it took forever removing everything to change it!

LeperousDust · 08-07-2008, 12:04

I just quoted myself which was smart.

I had the disapearing act before on one hard drive with ubuntu but it was the cheap ass converter from china that was playing around and it always has within windows too, everything else played nice (in ubuntu).

Big hmmmmm

LeperousDust · 08-07-2008, 15:34

Waheyage, this roller coaster of a server just took a turn for the better. I've been fiddling for hours now. I think i've managed to diagnose all the problems.

(i've said this before a lot though i know).

It seems its down to
One power connector i was splitting off is possibly a little iffy.
SATA connectors are inherently **** whoever designed them should be shot.
PATA to SATA converters are temperamental with certain things (my rocketraid card).
The PATA connectors on the converters are actually a lot looser than "normal" PATA cables.
Probably something else i haven't found yet.

Anyway an accumulation of those problems was flagging up all sorts of different problems as different stages, i now think i've sorted them out, apart from the fact that the two hard drives that went missing to windows are now back i'm not sure if (after my jigging) i plugged them back in in the same ports, and they're identical drives so that could send the strange windows software raid loopy. Time will tell...

FTP is back up if someone could check that, and i think i've got uTorrent working as well as quick and dirty websites (photos albums etc...) if needed from my server. Things are on the up again chaps!

Mark · 08-07-2008, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeperousDust

SATA connectors are inherently **** whoever designed them should be shot.

They know. Most recent connectors/cables lock into place to help prevent that.

Glad you're winning the war.

08-07-2008, 10:20	#51
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	I hope it's presented like that for my benefit only! __________________ apt-get moo

08-07-2008, 10:36	#52
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	Cool cool, i'll play, afaik its not plaintext, i've broken my ftp somehow. The setip is a bit weird though, it works as a normal app until i restart then its just a service and i cant confgure it becuase once the app is opened they clash with each other both trying to open separate FTP's. I'll have to look into this.. __________________

08-07-2008, 10:49	#53
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	w00t! Apparently, one of my hard drives has failed! Well that wasn't long, but it can't be the hard drive, i just don't trust any of the controllers anymore, the hard drives are old (3-4 years) but their working life has been literally nothing. I temped fate //Edit:Oh it gets better, i restart it appears again and two others go missing (both on the same controller). Think I'll have to invest in some controller cards because as it stands on board and PCI are giving me grief. __________________ Last edited by LeperousDust; 08-07-2008 at 10:53.

08-07-2008, 11:09	#55
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	From what i've read everything within FTPS is secured which is a little over the top and wastes resources a little. Whereas SFTP is SSHed for authorisation only. Anyway my FTP is a bug in the software (after all the different stuff i've tried!). Once running as a service it doesn't actually work properly, and you have to kill the service to open the app (nice going dev's) they openly admit its their fault and its been there since 2.2 (its not 2.3! not quite sure why they didnt look into it!). So as it stands theyve told me to add the exe to Run in local machine, but this still means i can't faff around in my remote desktop. Anyway thats probably the least of my worries __________________

08-07-2008, 12:03	#57
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	Noooooooooo i've just changed the ****ing mobo Don't say that, it took forever removing everything to change it! __________________

08-07-2008, 11:37	#56
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I seem to recall you've had the whole random disks appearing/disappearing thing before. Wasn't that the reason you ended up trying Ubuntu? You're not going to like this, but it may be the mobo. I have a P4P800 and even with just the two onboard SATA ports used I have problems. Whenever I do a big file transfer on the SATA disks it kills my networking throughput. :/

08-07-2008, 12:04	#58
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	I just quoted myself which was smart. I had the disapearing act before on one hard drive with ubuntu but it was the cheap ass converter from china that was playing around and it always has within windows too, everything else played nice (in ubuntu). Big hmmmmm __________________

08-07-2008, 15:34	#59
LeperousDust Bananaman Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Liverpool/Edinburgh Posts: 4,817	Waheyage, this roller coaster of a server just took a turn for the better. I've been fiddling for hours now. I think i've managed to diagnose all the problems. (i've said this before a lot though i know). It seems its down to One power connector i was splitting off is possibly a little iffy. SATA connectors are inherently **** whoever designed them should be shot. PATA to SATA converters are temperamental with certain things (my rocketraid card). The PATA connectors on the converters are actually a lot looser than "normal" PATA cables. Probably something else i haven't found yet. Anyway an accumulation of those problems was flagging up all sorts of different problems as different stages, i now think i've sorted them out, apart from the fact that the two hard drives that went missing to windows are now back i'm not sure if (after my jigging) i plugged them back in in the same ports, and they're identical drives so that could send the strange windows software raid loopy. Time will tell... FTP is back up if someone could check that, and i think i've got uTorrent working as well as quick and dirty websites (photos albums etc...) if needed from my server. Things are on the up again chaps! __________________