Derren Brown Predicting Lottery and the show on now - Page 7

divine · 11-09-2009, 22:01

Well, I think the ball fixing explanation is far more plausible than subconscious writing of conveniently divisible by 23 numbers averaged out and then conveniently kept secret from the people who had just done the guessing

But I suppose that sort of thing "isn't his style"

Ultimately I doubt either of the explanations in the show are even remotely close to what he actually did.

_dogma_ · 11-09-2009, 22:11

The thing where he got the guy to stamp on the polystyrene cups worried me a bit. I always pick number 13, it's my lucky number, I would've killed Jenny

Looking forward to next weeks show.

I still can't believe he's gay though. He made a joke about gays and everything!

Pheebs · 11-09-2009, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Matblack

I've just wasted 30 minutes of my life on the arse water that is Darren Brown, never again. Utter bunk which just plays on people's susceptibility, I respected some of the stuff he did before but tonight show was utter rubbish and backs up my thoughts that the guy is a complete charlatan.

MB

Annnnd that's why he's a legend! To make even suspecting people watch him... well. Clever man

Mark · 11-09-2009, 22:44

I haven't watched all of it, but 'the wisdom of crowds' is utter BS. Averaging lottery numbers selected by a crowd will always tend towards 25, so having just seen the 3/6 prediction (I'm on +1), it's no surprise that they were all in that area, and guess what - the three numbers that matched were also all in the 20s.

Edit - OK - so he changed the rules on a subsequent attempt. Still tending towards the mid-point though.

Pheebs, yes, he's clever, but let's be honest here - there isn't such a great divide between illusionist and con artist - they both rely on mis-direction. I'm not saying he is a con artist, just that being clever isn't necessarily the most important thing.

iCraig · 11-09-2009, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Mark

I haven't watched all of it, but 'the wisdom of crowds' is utter BS. Averaging lottery numbers selected by a crowd will always tend towards 25, so having just seen the 3/6 prediction (I'm on +1), it's no surprise that they were all in that area, and guess what - the three numbers that matched were also all in the 20s.

Pheebs, yes, he's clever, but let's be honest here - there isn't such a great divide between illusionist and con artist - they both rely on mis-direction.

Exactly. I think it's backfired on him and the splitscreen fooled nobody. He's cooked this crap up to make it seem like he hasn't just basically used technology to perform an illusion. Otherwise, the people who do CGI for films and TV are all "illusionists"

Mark · 11-09-2009, 22:56

Edited my post a bit as I was watching, but I still don't buy it. It's just so easy to fake.

Mark · 11-09-2009, 23:18

Just seen what he's proposing for next week. I really hope he doesn't try to do that 'live' on TV. Illusionists don't show how they induce suggestion and/or hypnosis live on TV for one very good reason - they're not in control of the viewer's environment.

petemc · 11-09-2009, 23:35

Ah but he's already done that. He made us all watch the show tonight and clearly he's on commission by the lottery peeps with all those ads. He can reach you through the tv....oooooh ahhhhhhhh.

leowyatt · 12-09-2009, 08:37

There was no way on earth he was going to reveal exactly how he did it. He was always going to give us rubbish tonight to explain "how" he could have done it but not the exact way.

I would suggest though if you get to see him live do go. I'm talking to you here MB, his live shows are so much better than the tosh that was on last night. I said to Kitten quite a few times while watching "utter bollocks!!" to stuff he was saying because in my opinion it was. No way could he have fixed the machine because those numbers would have kept coming up.

Matblack · 12-09-2009, 09:14

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Originally Posted by leowyatt

There was no way on earth he was going to reveal exactly how he did it. He was always going to give us rubbish tonight to explain "how" he could have done it but not the exact way.

I would suggest though if you get to see him live do go. I'm talking to you here MB, his live shows are so much better than the tosh that was on last night. I said to Kitten quite a few times while watching "utter bollocks!!" to stuff he was saying because in my opinion it was. No way could he have fixed the machine because those numbers would have kept coming up.

Nope, I've seen a few things he's done and I'd have no interest in seeing him live, Pheeb's Aitch wanted to see it, I wouldn't have chosen it and there wasn't a moment in it that I thought 'that's clever' everything screamed fix. I'd much prefer to see 'real' magic a la Paul Daniels than give Mr Brown's claptrap another moment of my time.

MB

11-09-2009, 22:01	#61
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	Well, I think the ball fixing explanation is far more plausible than subconscious writing of conveniently divisible by 23 numbers averaged out and then conveniently kept secret from the people who had just done the guessing But I suppose that sort of thing "isn't his style" Ultimately I doubt either of the explanations in the show are even remotely close to what he actually did. __________________ Last edited by divine; 11-09-2009 at 22:04.

11-09-2009, 22:11	#62
_dogma_ Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife. Posts: 278	The thing where he got the guy to stamp on the polystyrene cups worried me a bit. I always pick number 13, it's my lucky number, I would've killed Jenny Looking forward to next weeks show. I still can't believe he's gay though. He made a joke about gays and everything! __________________

11-09-2009, 22:44	#64
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I haven't watched all of it, but 'the wisdom of crowds' is utter BS. Averaging lottery numbers selected by a crowd will always tend towards 25, so having just seen the 3/6 prediction (I'm on +1), it's no surprise that they were all in that area, and guess what - the three numbers that matched were also all in the 20s. Edit - OK - so he changed the rules on a subsequent attempt. Still tending towards the mid-point though. Pheebs, yes, he's clever, but let's be honest here - there isn't such a great divide between illusionist and con artist - they both rely on mis-direction. I'm not saying he is a con artist, just that being clever isn't necessarily the most important thing. Last edited by Mark; 11-09-2009 at 22:54.

11-09-2009, 23:35	#68
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	Ah but he's already done that. He made us all watch the show tonight and clearly he's on commission by the lottery peeps with all those ads. He can reach you through the tv....oooooh ahhhhhhhh. __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!

12-09-2009, 08:37	#69
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	There was no way on earth he was going to reveal exactly how he did it. He was always going to give us rubbish tonight to explain "how" he could have done it but not the exact way. I would suggest though if you get to see him live do go. I'm talking to you here MB, his live shows are so much better than the tosh that was on last night. I said to Kitten quite a few times while watching "utter bollocks!!" to stuff he was saying because in my opinion it was. No way could he have fixed the machine because those numbers would have kept coming up. __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

11-09-2009, 22:56	#66
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Edited my post a bit as I was watching, but I still don't buy it. It's just so easy to fake.

11-09-2009, 23:18	#67
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Just seen what he's proposing for next week. I really hope he doesn't try to do that 'live' on TV. Illusionists don't show how they induce suggestion and/or hypnosis live on TV for one very good reason - they're not in control of the viewer's environment.