VISTA on pre-order.. - Page 8

Will · 02-03-2007, 17:55

You're a naughty girl, that's all Jen. A very naughty girl...

Haly · 02-03-2007, 17:57

I can be

Depends who asks

iCraig · 02-03-2007, 18:26

Aye aye, shepherds pie.

Mark · 02-03-2007, 18:37

Regarding the 'simplicity' of OS X, the interesting thing is that Vista tries to bestow the same simplicity on the PC world. Only, as the article points out, it fails, miserably.

I've used Vista, and will probably have to continue to use it, as we're supposed to be supporting it at work (though we don't right now, even though we claim we do), but it'll be locked away inside a VMWare virtual machine, and there it'll stay.

Mohinder · 02-03-2007, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Mark

Regarding the 'simplicity' of OS X, the interesting thing is that Vista tries to bestow the same simplicity on the PC world. Only, as the article points out, it fails, miserably.

Exactly. People sometimes try and act like the simplicity of the OS is a bad thing, and I really don't know how that works... well, it doesn't.

Mac OS just might as well not be there, allowing you to better concentrate on your work. I don't know why some people seem to think it's really cool for everything to be more work than it should be. That's just stupid.

They might as well say 'hah, you use your legs as they are? I put myself in leg irons before I walk anywhere, that makes me much more leet'

semi-pro waster · 02-03-2007, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Mohinder

Exactly. People sometimes try and act like the simplicity of the OS is a bad thing, and I really don't know how that works... well, it doesn't.

Mac OS just might as well not be there, allowing you to better concentrate on your work. I don't know why some people seem to think it's really cool for everything to be more work than it should be. That's just stupid.

I wasn't actually talking about OS X if it was my comments that prompted the posts by you and Mark, I've only used it very briefly when browsing on a Macbook which is why I specifically said that it was a long time ago that I had used a Mac (OS 8 and 9 I think).

I don't see how XP is more work than it should be, it just works 99% of the time but I still feel like I have more control over what the OS does currently than I ever did when using Mac OS. Vista is trying to simplify also as noted, I'm not sure that it is step forward for me personally although I think it will get more users than ever before due to the simplicity (providing it works). I am probably one of the few who still have fond memories of Windows 98 which was probably the last Microsoft OS that went to work on the explicit understanding that you can do anything you want (more or less) but if you knacker it, you've had your chips.

I'm happy to accept I am in a minority on this one but like I've said it is an unreasoning prejudice, nothing more and nothing less.

Mark · 02-03-2007, 19:13

I still use the command prompt on Windows. And I do exactly the same on OS X as well. Trust me, the first thing I do on any new XP install is pin the command prompt shortcut to the start menu. I'll do the same on Vista too, closely followed by re-enabling the run box. Simplicity be damned.

If there's such a thing as a control freak where Windows is concerned, I'm probably a model case.

Dr. Z · 02-03-2007, 19:16

On the surface, Vista "feels" absolutely miles quicker than XP on the same hardware. I have an XP box sat next to my Vista box and I genuinely prefer Vista.

Initially I didnt think it would be that great but it suprised me. I have had the odd blip with hardware, but no great difficulty resolving it unlike certain problems I have had under Linux etc. I dont see why so many people need to scream and shout about it.

If it works for you, great. If you prefer something else, use that.

Re-enable the run menu? Its windows+r, for those who use the keyboard

Why press more keys/use the mouse?

Mark · 02-03-2007, 19:23

Ah, well then, since I use Windows+R anyway, I'm sorted.

Vista has been slower for me. Every time. Most of that is probably down to buggy RC builds and using it in crippled VMs though. I've not had chance to install the final version yet.

Dr. Z · 02-03-2007, 19:27

Well in the last version of VMWare I installed, it did say the longhorn support was experimental! So combining that with your RC builds of Vista, its no surprise it wasnt as smooth as it could have been!

Install a final build properly and have a play before you give it down the banks

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Dr. Z I'm going for a scuttle... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,021	On the surface, Vista "feels" absolutely miles quicker than XP on the same hardware. I have an XP box sat next to my Vista box and I genuinely prefer Vista. Initially I didnt think it would be that great but it suprised me. I have had the odd blip with hardware, but no great difficulty resolving it unlike certain problems I have had under Linux etc. I dont see why so many people need to scream and shout about it. If it works for you, great. If you prefer something else, use that. Re-enable the run menu? Its windows+r, for those who use the keyboard Why press more keys/use the mouse? __________________

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Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Regarding the 'simplicity' of OS X, the interesting thing is that Vista tries to bestow the same simplicity on the PC world. Only, as the article points out, it fails, miserably. I've used Vista, and will probably have to continue to use it, as we're supposed to be supporting it at work (though we don't right now, even though we claim we do), but it'll be locked away inside a VMWare virtual machine, and there it'll stay.

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Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I still use the command prompt on Windows. And I do exactly the same on OS X as well. Trust me, the first thing I do on any new XP install is pin the command prompt shortcut to the start menu. I'll do the same on Vista too, closely followed by re-enabling the run box. Simplicity be damned. If there's such a thing as a control freak where Windows is concerned, I'm probably a model case.

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Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Ah, well then, since I use Windows+R anyway, I'm sorted. Vista has been slower for me. Every time. Most of that is probably down to buggy RC builds and using it in crippled VMs though. I've not had chance to install the final version yet.