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leowyatt · 11-11-2008, 19:29

They are just covering their arses mate, just use your noggin

phykell · 11-11-2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by leowyatt

They are just covering their arses mate, just use your noggin

I'm paranoid and justifiably so I reckon!

leowyatt · 11-11-2008, 20:23

We're just going over old ground here so I'm going to step away from this thread.

divine · 11-11-2008, 20:31

Both my LCD manuals have virtually the same things in them

I expect any you might have do as well.

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LCD Monitors and TVs may have image retention when switching from one image to another
especially after displaying a stationary image for a long time.
This guide is to demonstrate correct usage of LCD products in order to protect them from Image
retention.
What is Image retention ?
During normal operation of a LCD panel, pixel image retention doesn't occur. However,
if the same image is displayed for a long time, a slight difference in electric charge
accumulates between the two electrodes which encase the liquid crystal. This may
cause the liquid crystal to build up in a certain areas of the display. Thus, the previous
image is retained when switching to a new video image. All display products, including
LCD,are subject to image retention. This is not a product defect.

...followed by various pictures which I can't be bothered to cut and upload

ElRazur · 11-11-2008, 21:02

Lol at this thread. Phykell, trust me on this will you?

I have had my ps3 since a few weeks after it was released in japan. My Panasonic viera plasma tv was bought about a week after that. I have played my ps3 extensively since that time [how long ago was ps3 launched again?] My GF have left it on listening to digital radio and I have left it for considerable amount of time on "pause" while doing something else....I am yet to have a single image-burn in.

I just followed the normal steps - Contrast at 0, Colour at 50, sharpness and tint at 0 and brightness at 50...for the first 100hrs.

leowyatt · 11-11-2008, 21:06

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Originally Posted by ElRazur

I just followed the normal steps - Contrast at 0, Colour at 50, sharpness and tint at 0 and brightness at 50...for the first 100hrs.

Most new plasmas don't have to do the 100hrs run in ours included

ElRazur · 11-11-2008, 21:13

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Originally Posted by leowyatt

Most new plasmas don't have to do the 100hrs run in ours included

Every one seem to be doing it on av forum around the time I bought the tv, so yeah I joined in too.

leowyatt · 11-11-2008, 21:17

Hey I did it with the Samsung we had but the Panny seems to be a better with retention.

phykell · 11-11-2008, 21:30

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Originally Posted by leowyatt

We're just going over old ground here so I'm going to step away from this thread.

I can understand your frustration but I'm about to spend a lot of money on this thing so I have to be sure.

Mark · 11-11-2008, 22:00

As previously indicated - *all* equipment can be damanged if you abuse it. So don't abuse it then.

The 100 hours thing is a good idea. You probably won't break it if you don't get the stopwatch out and time exactly 100 hours. You also won't break it if you leave a static image on screen while you go make a cuppa, answer the phone, or answer the call of nature.

There's a few things you can do to protect your investment. This applies whatever type of TV you have.

If the TV has an 'idle timer', use it. My Pio turns off after three hours if I don't use the remote. If I forget and leave it on a static image, then that's my investment protected, right there.
Don't max out the brightness. Most shops run their displays with a far higher brightness level than you actually need, so people think this is normal and how they're supposed to use their TVs. If it hurts your eyes, it's probably too high.
If you're not using the TV, turn it off.
If you do see any signs of retention, deal with them straight away - re-tune to something fast-moving, or (providing your TV will display it) static noise is even better.

If you're sensible with the screen then even with the plethora of warnings, there would probably be a good case to answer under SOGA if you do get retention issues. A TV isn't 'fit for purpose' if the first time you use it the image gets burned in forever.

What you do with your money is your choice, but there's a point when 'getting the right thing for you' turns into 'getting anal retentive over some detail that'll probably never happen'. Fact of life - all TVs break eventually, and all TVs suffer from image fade over time.

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leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	We're just going over old ground here so I'm going to step away from this thread. __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

11-11-2008, 21:02	#75
ElRazur Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 214	Lol at this thread. Phykell, trust me on this will you? I have had my ps3 since a few weeks after it was released in japan. My Panasonic viera plasma tv was bought about a week after that. I have played my ps3 extensively since that time [how long ago was ps3 launched again?] My GF have left it on listening to digital radio and I have left it for considerable amount of time on "pause" while doing something else....I am yet to have a single image-burn in. I just followed the normal steps - Contrast at 0, Colour at 50, sharpness and tint at 0 and brightness at 50...for the first 100hrs. __________________ "Never ignore fools in large numbers." Last edited by ElRazur; 11-11-2008 at 21:14.

11-11-2008, 21:17	#78
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	Hey I did it with the Samsung we had but the Panny seems to be a better with retention. __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

11-11-2008, 22:00	#80
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	As previously indicated - all equipment can be damanged if you abuse it. So don't abuse it then. The 100 hours thing is a good idea. You probably won't break it if you don't get the stopwatch out and time exactly 100 hours. You also won't break it if you leave a static image on screen while you go make a cuppa, answer the phone, or answer the call of nature. There's a few things you can do to protect your investment. This applies whatever type of TV you have. If the TV has an 'idle timer', use it. My Pio turns off after three hours if I don't use the remote. If I forget and leave it on a static image, then that's my investment protected, right there. Don't max out the brightness. Most shops run their displays with a far higher brightness level than you actually need, so people think this is normal and how they're supposed to use their TVs. If it hurts your eyes, it's probably too high. If you're not using the TV, turn it off. If you do see any signs of retention, deal with them straight away - re-tune to something fast-moving, or (providing your TV will display it) static noise is even better. If you're sensible with the screen then even with the plethora of warnings, there would probably be a good case to answer under SOGA if you do get retention issues. A TV isn't 'fit for purpose' if the first time you use it the image gets burned in forever. What you do with your money is your choice, but there's a point when 'getting the right thing for you' turns into 'getting anal retentive over some detail that'll probably never happen'. Fact of life - all TVs break eventually, and all TVs suffer from image fade over time. Last edited by Mark; 11-11-2008 at 22:04.