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jmc41 · 15-04-2011, 21:26

Maybe slow down your first could of kms Matt, try and get the slower start / faster end rhythm, hard I know. The longer I run for the faster I seem to feel even when I'm actually doing the same speed as I tire.

Tonight: 2:05:56. But I was able to actually chuck the bin back, take the boxes in, and not physically shake while trying to unlock the door, progress. 13C, dry and little wind, perfect running weather imho.

Hope the weather holds for anyone busy Sunday! 26.2 miles is an insane distance.

Roberta · 15-04-2011, 22:00

Matt - are you just doing long paced runs or shorter faster ones and mixing it up?

Matblack · 15-04-2011, 22:08

I'm mostly sticking to the C25K program, thats 3 sessions of interval training in a week building to a full 5k continious run but I did a 5k on Sunday and one today just to mix it up and see if I can.

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

After this I think I'll use the Bridge to 10k training program which is more of the same really. I've been reading today that intervals are better for weight loss anyway so thats ideal. I'm open to suggestions though

MB

BBx · 16-04-2011, 00:40

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Originally Posted by Matblack

I'm in awe of you BBx getting under 30, are you running that on a tread mill with no incline?

MB

Yes running on a treadmill at incline of only 0.1 that's all... I should increase it though to compensate for road running as would like to get out on the road now its getting lighter/warmer.

When I first started this 10k a week running thing (I do 2x sessions of 5km) I started the 5kms at 9.5km/k and now I am at 10km/h finishing the last 250m on a sprint at 11km/h.

Its so true that the more you run the beeter you get at it... and you have to keep it up otherwise you have to start from the beginning... the hotel I am staying at on hols has a gym so want to keep it up.

~Next week I am out a lot in the eve so am going to have to spread the 10k target across a few mornings (eek!)

You are doing incredibly well though Matt! I find its just breaking out the mould and getting the first pang of motivation - once you are there you feed off it and want to keep it up....

I may be drunk... but i think I still make semse,...

BB x

Roberta · 16-04-2011, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matblack

I'm mostly sticking to the C25K program, thats 3 sessions of interval training in a week building to a full 5k continious run but I did a 5k on Sunday and one today just to mix it up and see if I can.

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

After this I think I'll use the Bridge to 10k training program which is more of the same really. I've been reading today that intervals are better for weight loss anyway so thats ideal. I'm open to suggestions though

MB

Sounds ideal. Intervals definitely help with your cardio fitness too. I think you're doing brilliantly. All of a sudden you'll break the 5k barrier and you'll feel on top of the world! The 5k is the hardest one to break I think. After that it seems easy to increase each time.

lostkat · 16-04-2011, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Roberta

Sounds ideal. Intervals definitely help with your cardio fitness too. I think you're doing brilliantly. All of a sudden you'll break the 5k barrier and you'll feel on top of the world! The 5k is the hardest one to break I think. After that it seems easy to increase each time.

Agreed.

I would still say ignore time and concentrate on just running for 5k nonstop, no matter how slow it feels. Getting your speed up is the easy bit. It's the stamina that takes a while to develop

The best piece of advice I got when I was just starting out was SLOW DOWN

Kitten · 16-04-2011, 13:17

I'm only running at 5km/ph at the moment. Feel like a wuss but I can get further.

BBx · 16-04-2011, 16:59

You will get better Kitten

your body gets used to the speed and then you find your legs are running too fast for the treadmill so you HAVE to put the speed up

I HATE running (have I said that before?!

) its all baby steps and we have good and bad days.

Today was a good day... 29m 09 again..

BB x

jmc41 · 16-04-2011, 18:41

Just spoke to a friend who was roped into a 10km that took him 1h55m, I think this goes to show that running slowly is a good idea. His main issue was the first 4k were far too fast and so he really suffered later on.

The most important thing as lostkat said is the stamina, until I started keeping it really slow and working on just going for as long as I could I made very little progress.

Jonny69 · 17-04-2011, 11:15

You're almost certainly going too fast at first Matt. I don't time my kilometres but I do set off substantially slower than I end up going later. Start slow, get the crap out of your system, get your heart rate up, get your breathing in check and you settle into your pace. But you MUST start off slow when you set out.

Did about 7km this morning. Set off before the Marathon started so I didn't look too much like a motivated Marathon newbie and found some new trails through the woods. I only set out to do 3-5km but I was enjoying myself so much I stayed out for a bit longer. I have been CHOWING DOWN the supplies in the cupboard. I can soak up a 5km run but anything over that I get HUNGRY

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Roberta Pole Model Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,986	Matt - are you just doing long paced runs or shorter faster ones and mixing it up? __________________ I fell out of favour with Heaven somewhere, and I'm here for the hell of it now...

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Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	I'm mostly sticking to the C25K program, thats 3 sessions of interval training in a week building to a full 5k continious run but I did a 5k on Sunday and one today just to mix it up and see if I can. http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml After this I think I'll use the Bridge to 10k training program which is more of the same really. I've been reading today that intervals are better for weight loss anyway so thats ideal. I'm open to suggestions though MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

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Kitten Spinky-Spank Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 668. The Neighbour of the Beast Posts: 11,226	I'm only running at 5km/ph at the moment. Feel like a wuss but I can get further. __________________ "You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, except for those you accept or create for yourself. Then once it's over... it's over. Dreamless sleep for ever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here?" Nate Fisher

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Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	You're almost certainly going too fast at first Matt. I don't time my kilometres but I do set off substantially slower than I end up going later. Start slow, get the crap out of your system, get your heart rate up, get your breathing in check and you settle into your pace. But you MUST start off slow when you set out. Did about 7km this morning. Set off before the Marathon started so I didn't look too much like a motivated Marathon newbie and found some new trails through the woods. I only set out to do 3-5km but I was enjoying myself so much I stayed out for a bit longer. I have been CHOWING DOWN the supplies in the cupboard. I can soak up a 5km run but anything over that I get HUNGRY __________________

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jmc41 Absinthe Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,070	Maybe slow down your first could of kms Matt, try and get the slower start / faster end rhythm, hard I know. The longer I run for the faster I seem to feel even when I'm actually doing the same speed as I tire. Tonight: 2:05:56. But I was able to actually chuck the bin back, take the boxes in, and not physically shake while trying to unlock the door, progress. 13C, dry and little wind, perfect running weather imho. Hope the weather holds for anyone busy Sunday! 26.2 miles is an insane distance.

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BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	You will get better Kitten your body gets used to the speed and then you find your legs are running too fast for the treadmill so you HAVE to put the speed up I HATE running (have I said that before?! ) its all baby steps and we have good and bad days. Today was a good day... 29m 09 again.. BB x

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jmc41 Absinthe Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,070	Just spoke to a friend who was roped into a 10km that took him 1h55m, I think this goes to show that running slowly is a good idea. His main issue was the first 4k were far too fast and so he really suffered later on. The most important thing as lostkat said is the stamina, until I started keeping it really slow and working on just going for as long as I could I made very little progress.