VISTA on pre-order.. - Page 9

Will · 02-03-2007, 19:31

I have a full copy of ultimate that I have on my testbed at work - it's "ok" - I'll be happier in 6 months down the line I think when it's more supported and it's been fixed more. However I am in no rush to move to it as I was to move from 98 to XP. However it took a lot of arm twisting to move from 2000 to XP.

Feek · 02-03-2007, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Le Hoff

However it took a lot of arm twisting to move from 2000 to XP.

I still have two boxes here running Windows 2000 with no need to upgrade.

But I've been bitten by the Vista bug, I'm really enthusiastic about it, and yes, I have seen it and played with it. Seemed much smoother and nicer than FisherPrice Windows. Sorry. Windows XP!

Mark · 02-03-2007, 20:11

I still have two boxes running Windows NT (I think Microsoft might want to shoot me).

I suspect that as a result of the office changes I'll be inheriting new hardware and retiring these two though.

Daz · 02-03-2007, 21:32

I've got clients still with NT4 server

The final build of Vista is miles faster than the RC's Mark, even in VM. Though it really does need physical hardware, it still doesnt virtualise as well as any other OS I've tried (under VMWare, Xen or qemu).

Mark · 02-03-2007, 22:36

Aye. I've been running XP in a VM most of the week, and it's perfectly useable. That's my benchmark really.

I have moved the VMs onto the laptop though, which probably counts for a fair bit, even though the laptop is only a year newer.

Will · 03-03-2007, 16:16

Is the 64bit edition worth getting for 64bit enabled CPUs?

PeterNem · 03-03-2007, 16:19

I've been running Vista Ultimate (32bit version) at home for a month or so now (*hugs MSDN subscription*).

I would have gone for the 64 bit version, but my understanding is that it will not let you install a driver that is unsigned by WHQL, which at this early stage of it's life would probably lead to problems with drivers (particularly for wireless adapters and the suchlike).

The 32 bit version warns you that a driver is unsigned but lets you just click on anyway.

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Originally Posted by Mark

I still have two boxes running Windows NT (I think Microsoft might want to shoot me).

A certain large retail bank that I am doing some work for still have some NT4 kit. I think the figure quoted was that so far they've paid MS £40m to continue supporting it for them. I think it's a pretty safe bet that they're looking at migrating it to something that still has support!

Mark · 03-03-2007, 17:54

Well, NT4 was well used in ATMs a few years ago. NatWest in particular. Lloyds were somewhat behind the curve as well, with IBM PS/2 machines in branches until at least a few years ago.

I had access to a very large percentage of the back office code for a certain retail bank a few years ago. I had to sign NDA for that, so I'm not going to say which one.

Daz · 03-03-2007, 18:13

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Originally Posted by PeterNem

I would have gone for the 64 bit version, but my understanding is that it will not let you install a driver that is unsigned by WHQL

I believe it can be done, but you have to use a menu option at startup (F8 jobbie), and you'd need to select it every time you boot... so not convenient really.

Will, only if you're sure all your hardware is both supported in 64bit, and Vista. Otherwise not, because you'll be waiting for a while.

Robert · 03-03-2007, 18:18

I don't think you even need to do that. When I install Nvidia beta drivers it just warns you when you install them and asks if you want to stop the installation or continue.

02-03-2007, 19:31	#81
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	I have a full copy of ultimate that I have on my testbed at work - it's "ok" - I'll be happier in 6 months down the line I think when it's more supported and it's been fixed more. However I am in no rush to move to it as I was to move from 98 to XP. However it took a lot of arm twisting to move from 2000 to XP. __________________ *No No!*

02-03-2007, 21:32	#84
Daz The Stig Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Swad! Posts: 10,713	I've got clients still with NT4 server The final build of Vista is miles faster than the RC's Mark, even in VM. Though it really does need physical hardware, it still doesnt virtualise as well as any other OS I've tried (under VMWare, Xen or qemu). __________________ apt-get moo

03-03-2007, 16:16	#86
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	Is the 64bit edition worth getting for 64bit enabled CPUs? __________________ *No No!*

02-03-2007, 20:11	#83
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I still have two boxes running Windows NT (I think Microsoft might want to shoot me). I suspect that as a result of the office changes I'll be inheriting new hardware and retiring these two though.

02-03-2007, 22:36	#85
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Aye. I've been running XP in a VM most of the week, and it's perfectly useable. That's my benchmark really. I have moved the VMs onto the laptop though, which probably counts for a fair bit, even though the laptop is only a year newer.

03-03-2007, 17:54	#88
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Well, NT4 was well used in ATMs a few years ago. NatWest in particular. Lloyds were somewhat behind the curve as well, with IBM PS/2 machines in branches until at least a few years ago. I had access to a very large percentage of the back office code for a certain retail bank a few years ago. I had to sign NDA for that, so I'm not going to say which one.

03-03-2007, 18:18	#90
Robert Chump!!! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North West Posts: 993	I don't think you even need to do that. When I install Nvidia beta drivers it just warns you when you install them and asks if you want to stop the installation or continue.