A 365 thread - Page 9

Haly · 15-07-2008, 22:18

That brownie looks gooooooooooood.

petemc · 15-07-2008, 22:19

It was too

Nicely chilled but I'm sure it was smaller than it used to be.

petemc · 16-07-2008, 22:39

Thinking, thinking. So this here 365 is about me, but how much of me should I put out there? I could go for broke. Emo myself up and put the real me online through photos. My pitfalls, personal problems and what its really like being me on a day to day basis. Now I could do that, I mean how hard is it to discuss things with a web page? Its not really. But thinking about it real people do read it. You wouldn't do this in real life would you? "Hey random stranger. This is a photo of how messy my desk is. Here's another showing <insert random life problem here>." You don't do it. There are things you keep from people you've just met because you want to make a good impression. If I've been having a rubbish day do I bitch and whine about it online to people I don't know?

I just can't decide how to play this. If I'm not honest then I'm lying to myself to hide problems and also deceiving people about who I really am. Of course its great to simply show the best bits of your life but life isn't brilliant every single day of the week. I'm reminded of an episode of Scrubs, 'My lunch' A recurring character dies and has her organs donated to other patients that need them. However it turns out she had rabies and the patients also got that. 2 of them die and Dr Cox is feeling down. The 3rd one dies while Cox tries to save him. It completely floors him. It has to be one of the best episodes of the series simply because it shows just how real he is, how human he is. 3 minutes in 7 years of the show is all it takes. This is the clip from that episode.

I think it simply comes down to this. Is it better to be seen as a good photographer or a good photographer who despite flaws overcomes them all to get those good photos. Are Superheroes better when they're perfect or when they're flawed? At least thats one way of looking at it. People may just see the flaws, so why make them public?

Kell_ee001 · 16-07-2008, 22:41

eeeerrrrr..... I'll get back to you

Haly · 16-07-2008, 22:43

Oooh thought provoking.
I'll go for the wimpy answer: It's down to you and how you want to be perceived, which no one else can decide for you.
That and I think either can work well depending on how you do it

petemc · 16-07-2008, 22:53

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Originally Posted by Kitten

I'd prefer the latter. Dunno why because it doesn't make the second photographer's work any better, but I would. It's about honesty and bravery and that's what makes us British, goddamnit!

PS... I probably would go for the former if it was me doing it. I'm not brave enough!

Exactly. In all honesty its easier to sit back, hide all the crap and say "Oh I'm doing books, working for these guys, photographing big names and I'm amazing." People are often more impressed with that than "Hi. I'm 30, living at home and often depressed. Oh but I did this the other week." Superman vs Batman. Batman is often recognised as the better superhero because of his demons. Superman is a girl because nothing can hurt him. He has no fear and can do anything. I think there are days when I'd like to be Superman.

Haly · 16-07-2008, 22:54

Is it worrying that the Batman/Superman analogy made it all go click in my head?

In which case, go for Batman

petemc · 16-07-2008, 22:58

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Originally Posted by Haly

Is it worrying that the Batman/Superman analogy made it all go click in my head?

In which case, go for Batman

Haha. I don't think so

People respect Batman more because he's just a guy who has troubles but fights them and the evil in Gotham at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Kitten

wouldn't you feel daft wearing your trolleys outside your jeans though?

To be perfectly honest, I think being more honest makes you more inspirational, but it's your call.

Ah but with the cape it'd all work

I think its partly how do I face the world knowing that they know me? I've bumped into people in town who read my photoblog and its always a little surreal. How surreal would it be chatting with a complete stranger who already knows you?

Davey_Pitch · 18-07-2008, 15:05

The best superhero is Spider-Man. He has a real life, he has real troubles, but he always rises above it to show the best of himself. It's what makes him inspirational

Besides, I don't think you'd suit a cape Pete

petemc · 19-07-2008, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Kitten

I have a similar problem at the moment : 2 books - sending to publishers. One an autobiographical type, which has stuff in that I cringe thinking my friends might find out about. The other is easier. Fun, fluffy and I'm happy with it but just doesn't have that 'edge' to it. Or is that just to me because I 'know' it's real, wheras the other one isn't?

To really go for it I'm gonna have to go with the 1st. But I don't know if I can yet. And of course, I can lie about my name

Sadly for you it's too late to go for a psuedonym now!

You just gotta face it Pete, you're climbing the celebrity iceberg. I keep getting info about you in my email inbox and no doubt I'll be seeing you in Heat Mag soon

Real is what people like to hear about. I was listening to Radio 2 while driving yesterday and they were criticising the South Bank show's episode with Billie Joel. The show focused on the tracks not the man and they really wanted to know the man. I guess its why people buy biographies too. Good luck with your books and I'll be on the look out for something by "Kittens McSouser"

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Originally Posted by Davey_Pitch

The best superhero is Spider-Man. He has a real life, he has real troubles, but he always rises above it to show the best of himself. It's what makes him inspirational

Besides, I don't think you'd suit a cape Pete

Thats true. They really played on that in Spiderman 2. Also Spiderman is called Pete and he's a photographer by day! Closest I can come to web slinging is making web sites. I can sling a mean CSS statement. Oh and I would have to wear a cape. You don't wanna see my ass in spandex

Well on the subject of behind the scenes I'm going to wing it.

Thursday 17th July

The long road. I had a wedding shoot in Cardiff to get to. Nearly a 4hr drive there and another 4hrs back. Now the shoot was simple as it was all documentary, no staged. I was still nervous as hell. I'm still kinda shy and driving across the country to document someones family life who you've never met is a little nerveracking. So what would you think is the worst thing to happen 20 minutes before hand? Forgetting the memory cards? No batteries? No camera? Nah, thats nothing. 20 minutes before hand I decide to get some gum to have nice minty fresh breath. After a few chews my temporary filling comes out. WHAT THE HELL?! I'm doing a sporty 70mph on the motorway and I suddenly about 80% of my wisdom tooth falls out. I just got the damn thing put in on Wednesday to avoid any issues during the wedding. I did not need it to fall out 20 minutes before hand.

The wedding goes according to plan and is lovely. Half way through I get an email and quickly check it. "Your sample chapter isn't working out. We think its best to cancel the HDR guide book." Oh thats just ginger. I'm in Cardiff on a semi-stressful job and my life is falling apart, literally. I put it aside and focus on the job. I'm getting great shots so I'm happy. The location was stunning. The filmed part of Dr Who there, where Donna goes on holiday and London gets nuked. Really nice people, lovely location and great shots.

After I get in my car and sigh. 4 hours to home. 4 hours before I can just crawl into bed and sleep. The plan was 2hrs on the way home to get a lovely Little Chef meal. Its something we did as a family and I haven't had one in years. I was looking forward to reliving the memory. I couldn't do that. No comfy hot chocolate when I got home in case there was immense pain. Just 4 hours on the road. So thats Thursday. The long road.

Friday 18th July

Various small errands took place and I've yet to think about the HDR book because the other errands needed sorting. I got the tooth filled again and so far its holding. Here's hoping it holds out for the weekend because as you can see I just got my press pass for the Tall Ships event. It's one of the big highlights for the Capital of Culture and should be really fantastic, assuming the weather is ok and the crowds aren't insane. I last saw the Tall Ships in 1992 and first in 1984. The parade of sail on Monday should be stunning.

15-07-2008, 22:18	#81
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	That brownie looks gooooooooooood. __________________ Halycopter

15-07-2008, 22:19	#82
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	It was too Nicely chilled but I'm sure it was smaller than it used to be. __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!

16-07-2008, 22:39	#83
petemc Moonshine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nr Liverpewl Posts: 4,371	Thinking, thinking. So this here 365 is about me, but how much of me should I put out there? I could go for broke. Emo myself up and put the real me online through photos. My pitfalls, personal problems and what its really like being me on a day to day basis. Now I could do that, I mean how hard is it to discuss things with a web page? Its not really. But thinking about it real people do read it. You wouldn't do this in real life would you? "Hey random stranger. This is a photo of how messy my desk is. Here's another showing <insert random life problem here>." You don't do it. There are things you keep from people you've just met because you want to make a good impression. If I've been having a rubbish day do I bitch and whine about it online to people I don't know? I just can't decide how to play this. If I'm not honest then I'm lying to myself to hide problems and also deceiving people about who I really am. Of course its great to simply show the best bits of your life but life isn't brilliant every single day of the week. I'm reminded of an episode of Scrubs, 'My lunch' A recurring character dies and has her organs donated to other patients that need them. However it turns out she had rabies and the patients also got that. 2 of them die and Dr Cox is feeling down. The 3rd one dies while Cox tries to save him. It completely floors him. It has to be one of the best episodes of the series simply because it shows just how real he is, how human he is. 3 minutes in 7 years of the show is all it takes. This is the clip from that episode. I think it simply comes down to this. Is it better to be seen as a good photographer or a good photographer who despite flaws overcomes them all to get those good photos. Are Superheroes better when they're perfect or when they're flawed? At least thats one way of looking at it. People may just see the flaws, so why make them public? __________________ Thats no hamster, its a space station!

16-07-2008, 22:41	#84
Kell_ee001 Wants Big Meat Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 6,478	eeeerrrrr..... I'll get back to you __________________

16-07-2008, 22:43	#85
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Oooh thought provoking. I'll go for the wimpy answer: It's down to you and how you want to be perceived, which no one else can decide for you. That and I think either can work well depending on how you do it __________________ Halycopter

16-07-2008, 22:54	#87
Haly Do you want to hide in my box? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 14,941	Is it worrying that the Batman/Superman analogy made it all go click in my head? In which case, go for Batman __________________ Halycopter

18-07-2008, 15:05	#89
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	The best superhero is Spider-Man. He has a real life, he has real troubles, but he always rises above it to show the best of himself. It's what makes him inspirational Besides, I don't think you'd suit a cape Pete __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.