The Great BD PC vs Console Debate

[divine]

That assumes upgrading though, look at it more from the 'from scratch' view.

You can either buy a E2180 or an E8400
1GB of RAM or 4GB
£30 graphics card or £150 graphics card
etc. etc.

The costs incurred making the thing a gaming rig rather than a regular rig are minimal.

If you want to look at upgrading from an existing old set up, again, the fairer comparison would be to then compare to an old AV set up where you have a 32" SD CRT with Scart inputs etc. IMO.

In essence, I just don't think it's fair to assume that in the situation of a console someone will already have their complete HD AV set up ready to go and bang, £200 means you're away but then by the same token assume a PC owner will be incurring every single part of the PC as a gaming cost.

[Streeteh]

Hmmm, I couldn't care less which cost more (within reason) or which controlled better (within reason also), all i care about is the games. At present consoles have produced all of my favorite games this year, I haven't played a single game on the PC this year that has been particularly fantastic.

PC used to have the best games, at that point it was my favorite platform, now consoles do. If the roles were to reverse, my 'allegiance' would go with it.

And yes, i am taking cross platform games into consideration, my favorite games this year have been MGS4, Uncharted and little big planet. Crysis: Warhead deserves an honorable mention for being the best FPS of the year, however, it still didn't stand up as one of the best games of the year overall.

[divine]

Forgive me if my posts seem somewhat disjointed too, i've been waging war on another forum about inverting Y axis and why inverting Y isn't the same as inverting X

[Haly]

Originally Posted by Streeteh

Hmmm, I couldn't care less which cost more (within reason) or which controlled better (within reason also), all i care about is the games. At present consoles have produced all of my favorite games this year,

Same here

[iCraig]

Originally Posted by NokkonWud

My £425 card was the opposition to that card, a 6800 Ultra and it also ran HL2 well, but later games it didn't.

Well I'm not sure, I remember that when Half Life 2 was released there was the infamous stutter bug, as well as a noticeable slide towards ATi hardware running it better. I could be remembering wrong though.

Originally Posted by NokkonWud

Left 4 Dead should be smooth, it's not a stunning looking game with complex mapping, complex particle effects or an incredibly lighting system nor are the models complex, polygon riddled monsters either. If it ran poorly I'd be surprised.

Actually, quite a few people on my friends list who have the demo struggle to play it. I think it's reasonably demanding for what it is. It's the source engine so yeah it's not 100% cutting edge, but there is a dollop of processing power behind it, the AI director apparently chugs away a fair amount of work during each game.

Originally Posted by Daz

There that console+tv/pc+monitor thing again. I really dont understand that - why, for example, if you had a perfectly good monitor in your room/office and decided to buy a console, would you need to buy a big telly, and why if I bought an uber gaming rig wouldnt I hook it to my TV? Never understood that.

People seem to be lumping the price of a decent monitor in with a gaming PC, so it stands to reason you'd have a decent TV for your console setup.

It's just a side-by-side comparison, from scratch, which would mean lump a monitor in with the PC and lump a TV in with the console, as they're both neccessary for the machine, and if you really are looking at absolute cost comparison for gaming setups, they need to be factored in.

I want a PS3, but if I get one it won't be just the PS3 I'll be blowing money on. It'll be a decent HDTV to enjoy bluray etc, the current 19" standard LCD TV we have would be wasted on that.

[NokkonWud]

It ran better on ATi, my friend actually imported an X800 XT PE at the same time so that was ideal to compare. However, my nVidia card was also the best on the market on that side, so it didn't struggle like some other nVidia ones.

As for the lumping a TV and a Monitor comment, read what I have said iCraig.

[Wyrdo]

Originally Posted by divine

Forgive me if my posts seem somewhat disjointed too, i've been waging war on another forum about inverting Y axis and why inverting Y isn't the same as inverting X

Eh, well they're a different axis for starters

[NokkonWud]

Even with practice on a pad the PS3 pad is crap for FPS games. If I could use my 360 pad I'd be happier. However, can you not use your mouse and keyboard on Resistance 2?

[SidewinderINC]

Originally Posted by NokkonWud

Even with practice on a pad the PS3 pad is crap for FPS games. If I could use my 360 pad I'd be happier. However, can you not use your mouse and keyboard on Resistance 2?

That's not really a fair statement.

I find the PS3 controller much easier to use than the Xbox controller, it's all about what you're used to.

[divine]

Originally Posted by NokkonWud

use your mouse and keyboard

everybody loves misquotes \o/