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divine · 03-11-2008, 01:23

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Originally Posted by Vertigo1

No fluke at all.

Well it was, as if it had only rained slightly less than it did, Glock would have kept his speed up, his inters would have been less effective and he'd have missed out.

To be honest, he had a fairly awful race today. There is driving conservatively because you only need fifth place and then there is doing it so conservatively that you end up almost losing a whole championship 2 laps from the end.

He should never have been as vulnerable as he was to that happening.

He was lucky to get away with it today, very lucky.

Glaucus · 03-11-2008, 15:36

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Originally Posted by divine

He was lucky to get away with it today, very lucky.

It's called tactics, it wasn't luck. McLaren planned it and they got the right tactic Glock had nothing to lose so went for it.

It's not as if they just guess rain, the amount of wearthr forecasting equipment they have is phaniominal.

divine · 03-11-2008, 16:07

You think tactically they wanted to be in a losing position two corners from the end?

Glocks penultimate lap was bang on time, only his last lap did he slow, so until that point, they wouldn't have known he was going to be slow enough to be caught. If that rain had been but 1 minute later, they would have lost it.

Feel free to believe McLaren tactically planned that race down to the minute and two corners, i'll continue to say he was damned lucky to get away with it.

Like I said, he should never have been left to get in a position so vulnerable to that happening in the first place.

Glaucus · 03-11-2008, 16:51

tactically they thought it was going to rain hard enough to put the slick tyre boys out of position, which it did.

semi-pro waster · 03-11-2008, 19:53

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Originally Posted by AcidHell2

tactically they thought it was going to rain hard enough to put the slick tyre boys out of position, which it did.

I think tactics and luck might have coincided here slightly. Tactically they were proven right by choosing that strategy but it is a shade fortunate that the rain didn't hold off another couple of minutes as that would have meant their tactics were wrong.

Feek · 03-11-2008, 20:01

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Originally Posted by semi-pro waster

I think tactics and luck might have coincided here slightly. Tactically they were proven right by choosing that strategy but it is a shade fortunate that the rain didn't hold off another couple of minutes as that would have meant their tactics were wrong.

Yes. Hence it was a bit of a fluke, which is what I said

Glaucus · 03-11-2008, 20:33

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Originally Posted by semi-pro waster

I think tactics and luck might have coincided here slightly. Tactically they were proven right by choosing that strategy but it is a shade fortunate that the rain didn't hold off another couple of minutes as that would have meant their tactics were wrong.

or it a shame there was any rain or lewis would off been several places ahead. All what ifs. Tactically they made the right decisions. You can play what ifs all year. At the end of the day though, they choose the right tactic.

LeperousDust · 03-11-2008, 22:01

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Originally Posted by AcidHell2

It's not as if they just guess rain, the amount of wearthr forecasting equipment they have is phaniominal.

Actually to be fair, don't they all use the same radar feed since they don't own their own satellites, so really there isn't much more you can forecast with the same radar feeds. ALL the teams have excellent equipment for forecasting with the data the have hold of. Usually their forecasts just differ by a few minutes. Like at the beginning Ferrari where saying it won't rain for another 40 minutes and Maclaren 30 (or maybe the other way round) but in forecasting terms theres nothing in that with margins of error.

LeperousDust · 03-11-2008, 22:03

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Originally Posted by AcidHell2

or it a shame there was any rain or lewis would off been several places ahead. All what ifs. Tactically they made the right decisions. You can play what ifs all year. At the end of the day though, they choose the right tactic.

Well you're right at the end of the day it can and does end in flukes, things blow up and stop working at the worst time these are also examples of flukes that have happened in the past. Its still a big game of luck that you can try your best to out wit with "tactics" but you're only hedging bets really

03-11-2008, 16:07	#63
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	You think tactically they wanted to be in a losing position two corners from the end? Glocks penultimate lap was bang on time, only his last lap did he slow, so until that point, they wouldn't have known he was going to be slow enough to be caught. If that rain had been but 1 minute later, they would have lost it. Feel free to believe McLaren tactically planned that race down to the minute and two corners, i'll continue to say he was damned lucky to get away with it. Like I said, he should never have been left to get in a position so vulnerable to that happening in the first place. __________________

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Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	tactically they thought it was going to rain hard enough to put the slick tyre boys out of position, which it did. __________________