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Old 13-02-2010, 22:10   #11
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The 500D does too, I'm pretty sure.
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Old 14-02-2010, 03:11   #12
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Yes it does, but it was new and expensive when I got into the market. Had to make my move when I did as I needed the camera. In general, I'd much prefer one device to two. In this case however I was considering the option of using both at the same time (I need to do some experimenting today to see if that's an option).

Edit - and with that - sleeping on my crazy ideas and bouncing the off you guys proves to be my saviour again. Thanks.

I'll find the current camcorder before doing anything. I'm not sure it'll be up to the job, but if it is, then that would be the sensible option to try first before spending any money at all. What camera work I do tends to be mostly stills, so spending money on a camcorder would seem like an idea best avoided if there's another option. Of course, that money can go towards a future body upgrade if I decide it's worth doing.

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Old 15-02-2010, 23:49   #13
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I have the Sigma 17-70 and it is a cracking lens with sharp images. There is a new IS version which is of course will cost more than the non IS version. I am very tempted to sell my 17-70 and buy the IS version.
Some of the consumer Canon lens I have read that the IQ is some soft at both ends the focal range !
I am currently saving my money for the EOS 7D and then a L lens 100-400 IS HSM. The other big lens that has taken my fancy is the Sigma 120-400. Which looks like a beast and is a big size lens. The big pulling point it has 98% IQ of the Canon L 100-400 and just under half the price ! !

Both the EOS 450D and 550D shoot HD video
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Old 16-02-2010, 00:04   #14
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The 450D does not shoot HD video. The 500D, 550D, and 50D do (not sure about the 40D).

Anyway, I've got a bit of a cunning plan coming on. Haven't decided whether or not to try it (it's a tad naughty - but not in an illegal way).
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Old 16-02-2010, 00:28   #15
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Who said the 450 did? *confused* the 40 doesn't support video at all.
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Old 16-02-2010, 00:36   #16
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Tysonator did.

I couldn't remember whether the 40D does or doesn't, so thanks for confirming that.

Not that I intend to be buying for at least the time being.
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So he did. Forgive me, I've got lurgi.
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Old 24-02-2010, 22:57   #18
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I meant the 500D & 550D shoot video, sorry for the confusion
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Old 10-03-2010, 17:30   #19
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Sigma 17-70

I'm actually considering selling mine, its a cracking lens but I'd like to get some L glass or the 17-55 IS
Guess what I've just bought

I had the 17-70 to start with as my first walkabout lens as I bought my original 400D as a body only.

I "upgraded" to a Sigma 24-60 f/2.8 late last year but was never very happy with it as, whilst it was very sharp at f/5.6, it was very soft at f/2.8 which sort of defeated the whole purpose really. I found myself avoiding using it at all and wished I hadn't sold the 17-70.

Then last week a deal popped up on a 17-55 IS that I just couldn't refuse (£500) so I did the deal and am now much happier

As for the OP's question, the 15-85 is getting very good reviews and is significantly better than the 17-85 but obviously costs more. The 17-85 is not "crap" by any means and can be found used for around £200 these days but if you can stretch to the 15-85, I'd say do so.

Failing that, the Sigma 17-70 is still a storming lens although you'll lose the IS and USM of the Canon 15-85. There is a new 17-70 with Sigma's OS & HSM but the few reviews I've seen so far have been fairly average tbh and not the glowing reports the original got.
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Old 10-03-2010, 23:52   #20
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Funny you should mention the 15-85. I've got one right now (courtesy LensesForHire/StewartR). While I'm not up to a full-on review, it has a reassuring weight to it and seems very well built (with no significant play at all - unlike my 18-55 IS and 70-300 IS). It's also incredibly quiet in operation. Guess the 18-55 stays at home then.
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