finding out house information (looks like it's derelict/abandoned) - Page 2

A Place of Light · 26-08-2012, 19:34

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Originally Posted by SidewinderINC

I figured as much APoL, and considering what this house looks like from the outside I can foresee a lot of work being needed on the inside. There's a few smaller outhouses in the back garden from what I can see - no idea about what's out there though.

I'm quite intrigued about this house now though haha.

Believe me mate, the obstacles they can throw in your path can either stop what would've been a simple job on a conventional house, or make it prohibitively expensive.
Tread very carefully and dont assume anything as a given when dealing with either a listed building or other nightmares like on trust land etc.

Kitten · 27-08-2012, 13:30

I remember a friend buying a partially listed building & having to repoint the back wall. Didn't realise she'd need a specialist builder who could make a100 year old mortar recipe & would charge around ten times a regular builder. Be very careful, there are many hidden legalities as as been mentioned.

A Place of Light · 27-08-2012, 13:53

A friend of mine had a building project (listed) and the planning officers ego went into overdrive once the word "listed" was mentioned. He demanded white mortar to which I replied that it didn't exist. He said "but that's what I want", so I said if you can find it we will use it. A month later my friend got a letter from said planning officer which said "reluctantly I've had to compromise on the White mortar issue".

The muppet.

Flibster · 27-08-2012, 16:54

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Originally Posted by A Place of Light

A friend of mine had a building project (listed) and the planning officers ego went into overdrive once the word "listed" was mentioned. He demanded white mortar to which I replied that it didn't exist. He said "but that's what I want", so I said if you can find it we will use it. A month later my friend got a letter from said planning officer which said "reluctantly I've had to compromise on the White mortar issue".

The muppet.

I family friend went through about 17 different bricks to build a wall that wasn't even visible from the house or the road outside.

They had to buy the bricks, call the looney officer, he'd them come have a look and a consider and then say no.

They asked What bricks can we use then?, and his responce was I'm not here to tell you that, I'm just here to approve or reject.

At the end, they were given half a dozen bricks of each that was available, called the nutter round and he chose the bricks that they had bought first of all and he rejected.

Waste of space the lot of them.

A Place of Light · 27-08-2012, 17:19

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Originally Posted by Flibster

Waste of space the lot of them.

Sadly, unless its a minor project the most relevant factor tends to be the personality of your planning officer.

Glaucus · 27-08-2012, 17:42

There was one on grand deisgn that fell into disrepair. Asically no owner and I can only assume council didnt know. They managed to get quite a bit of planning permission as it was in such bad state, so basically they paid to renovate it. Iirc they spent loads though as they had to make sure any walls still standing stayed up.
Doesn't sound like yours is actually falling down though.

SidewinderINC · 27-08-2012, 21:55

From the views of the house I can get (without climbing the surrounding walls) it doesn't appear to be falling down, just rotting woodwork on the outside and completely overgrown garden (grass over 4ft tall, piggy and desmo would get lost in it

)

If what you have described is more often that not the norm, Flibster, then I can definitely say it is not for me!

The field I work in, you say you're not happy with what somebody has proposed, you have to give constructive answers as to what you actually want - I don't think I could deal with anything different..

Mark · 28-08-2012, 12:31

I'm convinced that the word 'constructive' is alien to councils - and I'm not just talking about planning officers.

And yes, some of my family have worked for councils. Not in public-facing roles, mind.

A Place of Light · 28-08-2012, 17:36

Im going through planning channels now.
Believe me when I say that unless you've been through them before, you have no idea how petty/obstructive/unhelpful/plain awkward they can be.

27-08-2012, 13:30	#12
Kitten Spinky-Spank Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 668. The Neighbour of the Beast Posts: 11,226	I remember a friend buying a partially listed building & having to repoint the back wall. Didn't realise she'd need a specialist builder who could make a100 year old mortar recipe & would charge around ten times a regular builder. Be very careful, there are many hidden legalities as as been mentioned. __________________ "You only get one life. There's no God, no rules, except for those you accept or create for yourself. Then once it's over... it's over. Dreamless sleep for ever and ever. So why not be happy while you're here?" Nate Fisher

27-08-2012, 13:53	#13
A Place of Light Absinthe Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,247	A friend of mine had a building project (listed) and the planning officers ego went into overdrive once the word "listed" was mentioned. He demanded white mortar to which I replied that it didn't exist. He said "but that's what I want", so I said if you can find it we will use it. A month later my friend got a letter from said planning officer which said "reluctantly I've had to compromise on the White mortar issue". The muppet. __________________ I'm not Burnsy, you cretin.

27-08-2012, 17:42	#16
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	There was one on grand deisgn that fell into disrepair. Asically no owner and I can only assume council didnt know. They managed to get quite a bit of planning permission as it was in such bad state, so basically they paid to renovate it. Iirc they spent loads though as they had to make sure any walls still standing stayed up. Doesn't sound like yours is actually falling down though. __________________

27-08-2012, 21:55	#17
SidewinderINC Joey Tempest Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gravesend. Posts: 2,751	From the views of the house I can get (without climbing the surrounding walls) it doesn't appear to be falling down, just rotting woodwork on the outside and completely overgrown garden (grass over 4ft tall, piggy and desmo would get lost in it ) If what you have described is more often that not the norm, Flibster, then I can definitely say it is not for me! The field I work in, you say you're not happy with what somebody has proposed, you have to give constructive answers as to what you actually want - I don't think I could deal with anything different.. __________________ No Sig.

28-08-2012, 17:36	#19
A Place of Light Absinthe Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,247	Im going through planning channels now. Believe me when I say that unless you've been through them before, you have no idea how petty/obstructive/unhelpful/plain awkward they can be. __________________ I'm not Burnsy, you cretin.

28-08-2012, 12:31	#18
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I'm convinced that the word 'constructive' is alien to councils - and I'm not just talking about planning officers. And yes, some of my family have worked for councils. Not in public-facing roles, mind.