Is it stupid to think............. - Page 3

Pebs · 28-01-2008, 19:34

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Originally Posted by malc30

Nail/Head/Hit.

I love the posters that post with Authority about things they have No actual experience in

I also love the Holier than thou crowd that Never do Anything wrong

It seems the Interweb not only makes people Brave but it makes them an Authority on any subject they have recently Googled

LOL! I just love you Malc!

Justsomebloke · 28-01-2008, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pebs

LOL! I just love you Malc!

Not Fair, I have to be Witty & Funny to get your Love.
All you have to do is wear your Black boots

semi-pro waster · 28-01-2008, 19:55

I sometimes wonder about this myself, I've been in quite a few debates over the internet now and most of the time I'd be as well blowing bubbles as I would presenting what I consider to be a reasoned argument. But then there are those rare occasions when someone actually opens up to the possibility of another viewpoint, they don't even have to accept the viewpoint, merely acknowledge that it does exist and it all seems worthwhile - at least until the next pointless argument.

Justsomebloke · 28-01-2008, 20:06

I think you should still try, I personally have learnt loads off the Interweb & get to mix with people i wouldn't normally mix with (even Coppers

)
I like hearing the other side of an argument/point of view & give things a lot of thought after the discussion has ended. At the time i just say what's on my mind as that's the way i work but i do give things a lot of thought afterwards so even if you don't seem to get the reaction you were looking for there are Cogs grinding away in there somewhere

I s'pose what is key is trying to keep in mind just how different we all are, whether it be our up bringing, our education or our Current & Personal situation at the time

Pumpkinstew · 29-01-2008, 14:05

MB with those two you're on a hiding to nothing because one is a bigot and the other is willing to play devils advocate just for the sake of an argument.

Generally speaking though it wouldn't stop me posting alternate points of view because you don't know if someone else is reading and prepared to from an objective opinion based on any evidence they're read.

Joe 90 · 29-01-2008, 16:42

i agree with all.

imo, you can try, but on the interwebz people love their opinions and debates. (*cough* sps)
you can try, and with an insane amount of effort possibly get through to them. but is it really worth it? they are 'from the internet' after all

killerkebab · 30-01-2008, 14:00

I react differently on the internet, to provide a counter example. In real life if I have a debate with a friend or my father or other relative I tend to defend my position to the death, until I end up spinning myself in circles to the point where even I know I've contradicted myself a half dozen times.

Online though, I can't even remember the last time I saw a debate to it's end without changing my opinion, from a slight change to completely changing my mind...

Will · 30-01-2008, 15:16

I think I'm quite similar to you KK though I often get bored with them online and just go elsewhere. Some people just don't want to listen.

Rich_L · 30-01-2008, 15:34

Heh, if I've got a bit of time I'll happily argue away, but it's more for the fun of it rather than an attempt to change someone's mind, if my ramblings result in someone's position changing then happy days but that's never my intention from the start. Also I'll try to state my position quite fully, if further questions come that are genuine then I'll answer, but if it's just nitpicking then I'll usually ignore them.

Not to mention that if someone gets annoying I'll just close the thread or ignore them

Treefrog · 31-01-2008, 19:08

Well, I've had second thoughts about my position from some well reasoned arguments I've had, unfortunately I can't say the same about many others.
Always worth a try but in some cases you're simply throwing good money after bad by continuing IMHO.
And I'm slowly learning to tell which is which

Good point re CBS btw

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semi-pro waster Provider of sensible advice about homosexuals Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 2,615	I sometimes wonder about this myself, I've been in quite a few debates over the internet now and most of the time I'd be as well blowing bubbles as I would presenting what I consider to be a reasoned argument. But then there are those rare occasions when someone actually opens up to the possibility of another viewpoint, they don't even have to accept the viewpoint, merely acknowledge that it does exist and it all seems worthwhile - at least until the next pointless argument. __________________ "Your friend is the man that knows all about you, and still likes you." - Elbert Hubbard

28-01-2008, 20:06	#24
Justsomebloke The Night Worker Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,228	I think you should still try, I personally have learnt loads off the Interweb & get to mix with people i wouldn't normally mix with (even Coppers ) I like hearing the other side of an argument/point of view & give things a lot of thought after the discussion has ended. At the time i just say what's on my mind as that's the way i work but i do give things a lot of thought afterwards so even if you don't seem to get the reaction you were looking for there are Cogs grinding away in there somewhere I s'pose what is key is trying to keep in mind just how different we all are, whether it be our up bringing, our education or our Current & Personal situation at the time __________________

29-01-2008, 14:05	#25
Pumpkinstew Absinthe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mostly Oxford, Sometimes Bristol Posts: 1,156	MB with those two you're on a hiding to nothing because one is a bigot and the other is willing to play devils advocate just for the sake of an argument. Generally speaking though it wouldn't stop me posting alternate points of view because you don't know if someone else is reading and prepared to from an objective opinion based on any evidence they're read. __________________ Get old, or die tryin' PSTEWREVIEWS - Chunks of Meaty Reviews, Mixed with Your Five a Day of News, Comment and Opinion, Floating in a Broth of Suspect Grammar and Seasoned Liberally with Mixed Metaphor. Tasty.

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Joe 90 Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chester Posts: 2,345	i agree with all. imo, you can try, but on the interwebz people love their opinions and debates. (cough sps) you can try, and with an insane amount of effort possibly get through to them. but is it really worth it? they are 'from the internet' after all __________________ 360 Blog \| Join GiffGaff \| Twitter

30-01-2008, 14:00	#27
killerkebab Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bristol/Reading Posts: 656	I react differently on the internet, to provide a counter example. In real life if I have a debate with a friend or my father or other relative I tend to defend my position to the death, until I end up spinning myself in circles to the point where even I know I've contradicted myself a half dozen times. Online though, I can't even remember the last time I saw a debate to it's end without changing my opinion, from a slight change to completely changing my mind... __________________

30-01-2008, 15:16	#28
Will BBx woz 'ere :P Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 2,147,487,208	I think I'm quite similar to you KK though I often get bored with them online and just go elsewhere. Some people just don't want to listen. __________________ *No No!*

30-01-2008, 15:34	#29
Rich_L Dr Cocktapuss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Seven Sizzles Posts: 1,044	Heh, if I've got a bit of time I'll happily argue away, but it's more for the fun of it rather than an attempt to change someone's mind, if my ramblings result in someone's position changing then happy days but that's never my intention from the start. Also I'll try to state my position quite fully, if further questions come that are genuine then I'll answer, but if it's just nitpicking then I'll usually ignore them. Not to mention that if someone gets annoying I'll just close the thread or ignore them __________________

31-01-2008, 19:08	#30
Treefrog Survivor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chell Heath, Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 1,761	Well, I've had second thoughts about my position from some well reasoned arguments I've had, unfortunately I can't say the same about many others. Always worth a try but in some cases you're simply throwing good money after bad by continuing IMHO. And I'm slowly learning to tell which is which Good point re CBS btw __________________ Commit random kindness and senseless acts of beauty