Another hdd dead

Zirax · 04-02-2009, 23:02

The past six months I've had hdds dropping like flies. This time one of the 1TB Samsungs has packed up :/ Just checked and its 3 months old. What the heck am I doing to these hdds? Standard stuff, machine locked up, rebooted and its degraded in the array. It's a storage drive so not really hammered at all.

So far in six months I've had 2*500gb Seagates 7200.11's die, 1x Samsung and 1x Maxtor I think.

I'm wondering if its something I'm doing but they all had 120mm fans over them. The machines themselves run off UPS's that do filter the power. Prior to this I never had hdds fail.

Mark · 04-02-2009, 23:06

How are the drives mounted? How much space is there between them? Are you sure the drives are actually dead?

Zirax · 04-02-2009, 23:13

They are mounted horizontally, there is about 1cm between them.

I will rip the drive out and put it in my caddy. The 7200.11's are the ones with the iffy firmware. Some have gotten them to work after flashing, I can't trust them.

Mark · 04-02-2009, 23:16

Yup, I'm not surprised about the 7200.11s but the others are a bit more surprising so I'm wondering if the problem lies somewhere else. I've had drives disappear out of an array before only to prove perfectly fine. Usually when that happens it's just a bad sector which the drive fixes itself but that's enough to trip up the array.

Zirax · 04-02-2009, 23:19

Hmmm, ok thanks I'll have a play.

jmc41 · 05-02-2009, 08:59

Don't Samsungs have an intrinsic dislike of RAID? That's what I was told after fitting two and having issues with them a few months back.

Nutcase · 05-02-2009, 09:31

Well you got 2 months 3 weeks more than my 1tb samsung and 3 months more than my mate's!

Admiral Huddy · 05-02-2009, 10:01

3 HDD and 4 opticals in 4 years

Steeps · 05-02-2009, 10:04

Only time my samsungs have packed in was due to overheating and dodgy cables (having both at the same time is not fun) however after 5 years my 160gb's are still going in one pc (raided) and my 1tb drives are 6 months old still going. The 1tb drives get a bit hot sandwiched in a shuttle with no cooling, get a bit upset after 12hrs of data copying.

Nutcase · 06-02-2009, 07:29

Mine did seem to be getting rather hot, but don't see why as each drive bay has a cooling slot and air drawn over it. But could the heat be generated by the drive being faulty?

Just realised I'm working quite close to the roxo place that handles the warranty today so going to leave early and hand deliver it (with love!). If I'd have realised earlier I'd have offered to take yours, Matt.

Why is it I have to return it to a different place than I bought it from? I thought my contract was with them? Damned computer sellers get out of anything

04-02-2009, 23:02	#1
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	Another hdd dead The past six months I've had hdds dropping like flies. This time one of the 1TB Samsungs has packed up :/ Just checked and its 3 months old. What the heck am I doing to these hdds? Standard stuff, machine locked up, rebooted and its degraded in the array. It's a storage drive so not really hammered at all. So far in six months I've had 2*500gb Seagates 7200.11's die, 1x Samsung and 1x Maxtor I think. I'm wondering if its something I'm doing but they all had 120mm fans over them. The machines themselves run off UPS's that do filter the power. Prior to this I never had hdds fail.

05-02-2009, 10:01	#8
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	3 HDD and 4 opticals in 4 years __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

05-02-2009, 10:04	#9
Steeps Long Island Iced Tea Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 143	Only time my samsungs have packed in was due to overheating and dodgy cables (having both at the same time is not fun) however after 5 years my 160gb's are still going in one pc (raided) and my 1tb drives are 6 months old still going. The 1tb drives get a bit hot sandwiched in a shuttle with no cooling, get a bit upset after 12hrs of data copying. __________________

04-02-2009, 23:06	#2
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	How are the drives mounted? How much space is there between them? Are you sure the drives are actually dead?

04-02-2009, 23:13	#3
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	They are mounted horizontally, there is about 1cm between them. I will rip the drive out and put it in my caddy. The 7200.11's are the ones with the iffy firmware. Some have gotten them to work after flashing, I can't trust them.

04-02-2009, 23:16	#4
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Yup, I'm not surprised about the 7200.11s but the others are a bit more surprising so I'm wondering if the problem lies somewhere else. I've had drives disappear out of an array before only to prove perfectly fine. Usually when that happens it's just a bad sector which the drive fixes itself but that's enough to trip up the array.

04-02-2009, 23:19	#5
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	Hmmm, ok thanks I'll have a play.

05-02-2009, 08:59	#6
jmc41 Absinthe Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,070	Don't Samsungs have an intrinsic dislike of RAID? That's what I was told after fitting two and having issues with them a few months back.

05-02-2009, 09:31	#7
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Well you got 2 months 3 weeks more than my 1tb samsung and 3 months more than my mate's!

06-02-2009, 07:29	#10
Nutcase Moonshine Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chelmsford, innit! Posts: 3,979	Mine did seem to be getting rather hot, but don't see why as each drive bay has a cooling slot and air drawn over it. But could the heat be generated by the drive being faulty? Just realised I'm working quite close to the roxo place that handles the warranty today so going to leave early and hand deliver it (with love!). If I'd have realised earlier I'd have offered to take yours, Matt. Why is it I have to return it to a different place than I bought it from? I thought my contract was with them? Damned computer sellers get out of anything