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Old 17-02-2009, 18:57   #1
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/ame...894721.stm?lss

He's a wifebeater who beheads his wife, a stereotype that's probably more extreme that those he would have liked to counter.
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Plenty of non Muslim murdering wifebeaters out there. Only "Muslim" thing about it is the weapon of choice and that's probably because he could easily get his hands on one.
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Plenty of non Muslim murdering wifebeaters out there. Only "Muslim" thing about it is the weapon of choice and that's probably because he could easily get his hands on one.
It tends to be illegal rather than encouraged in other cultures... the irony involved makes this particularly noteworthy.

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It tends to be illegal rather than encouraged in other cultures...

Muslim isn't a culture, it's a religion and all the practicing Muslims I know find the idea of murder abhorrent.
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CBS, do you think your title should have been, "Capitalising on Muslim Prejudice"?
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CBS, do you think your title should have been, "Capitalising on Muslim Prejudice"?
I'd rather all discussion was related to the material presented in the news piece.
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I'd rather all discussion was related to the material presented in the news piece.
Or rather you'd prefer if people didn't point out your obvious anti Muslim bias. I was trying to work out what your first post reminded me of and I worked it out this morning when I popped out to buy some milk and saw the Daily Mail.
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Or rather you'd prefer if people didn't point out your obvious anti Muslim bias. I was trying to work out what your first post reminded me of and I worked it out this morning when I popped out to buy some milk and saw the Daily Mail.
I wished to discuss the irony although it seems that many are unable to put their feelings about the subject to the side. I'm not getting much change out of either of you though.
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I wished to discuss the irony although it seems that many are unable to put their feelings about the subject to the side. I'm not getting much change out of either of you though.

I think the problem we have here is that I don't see any irony, just a sad news story. It's hard to put feeling aside when you're telling me that my Muslim peace loving friends are from a culture that encourages violence against women when the religion they practice seems to do the opposite.

There are countries in the world where extreme Sharia law is still in place but last time I checked Packistan and Texas weren't on the list and if you look at countries like Iran where the extremist government is starting to struggle because the Muslim population are getting fed up with being ruled by a minority who want Sharia law you'll get a better idea of what Islam is about.

Unfortionately there will always be a vocal extremist minority who want to do stuff like stoning rape victims and decapitating adulters but I think it's very naive to think that the Muslim faith generally encourages this.
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I think the problem we have here is that I don't see any irony, just a sad news story. It's hard to put feeling aside when you're telling me that my Muslim peace loving friends are from a culture that encourages violence against women when the religion they practice seems to do the opposite.
I don't care about your friends. You need to study Islam a little more if you are under the impression that violence is not prescribed under certain conditions, including beating a wife for disobedience under most interpretations of sharia.

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There are countries in the world where extreme Sharia law is still in place but last time I checked Packistan and Texas weren't on the list and if you look at countries like Iran where the extremist government is starting to struggle because the Muslim population are getting fed up with being ruled by a minority who want Sharia law you'll get a better idea of what Islam is about.

Unfortionately there will always be a vocal extremist minority who want to do stuff like stoning rape victims and decapitating adulters but I think it's very naive to think that the Muslim faith generally encourages this.
It isn't a question of a minority and I think you'll find that the idea of 'minority responsibility' is abstract. In some Muslim countries at various points, minorities have seized power have enacted their views of sharia - in Afghanistan for example, it was once illegal for a woman to laugh in public - a punishment for which she would get beaten. This was enacted by the now famous Taliban, a group which still resides in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
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