BARCELONA Grand Prix 2009 - Race 5/17

Glaucus · 06-05-2009, 17:38

Hope I'm not stepping on anyones toes (delete this thread if I am), but it's Wednesday and I can't see a thread. Thought some people might be interested in some news as well, as a lo of people don't read much between races.

TV times:
BARCELONA - SPAIN

Friday 8 May

First practice: 0855-1035, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Second practice: 1255-1435, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Inside F1: 1830-1845, BBC News Channel, then looped on the Red Button. The show is repeated on Saturday at 1830 on the News Channel.

Saturday 9 May

Third practice: 1000-1100, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Qualifying: 1210-1415, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Qualifying replay: 1800-1000 (Sunday), BBC Red Button

Sunday 10 May

Race: 1210-1500, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Race re-run: 1600-1100 (Tuesday), BBC Red Button

Interactive Forum: 1500-1600, BBC Red Button/online

Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/BBC Red Button/online

Standings:

Track:
BBC Circuit Guide

Track Diagram

Circuit information
Length: 4.655km
Race distance: 66 laps / 305.256km

Full throttle: 57%
Top speed: 308kph
Longest flat-out section: 16s / 1.14km
Right/left-hand turns: 9/7

Tyre wear: Medium
Brake wear: high
Downforce level: High
Gear changes per lap: 44

2009 tyre compounds: hard, soft (green markings)
2008 tyre compounds: hard, medium (white markings)

Average fuel consumption: 2.271kg per lap (source: Williams)
Pit lane time loss: 22 seconds

Classic Spanish Grand Prix

Classic F1 - Spanish Grand Prix 1981 extended highlights
Watch the BBC's Grand Prix from the 1981 Spanish F1 race, as Ferrari's Gilles Villeneuve leads home a five-car train that was separated by just 1.24 seconds.

Classic F1 - Spanish Grand Prix 1986 extended highlights
Watch the BBC's Grand Prix from the 1986 Spanish race as Ayrton Senna holds off Nigel Mansell's late charge in one of the closest finishes in F1 history.

Classic F1 - Spanish Grand Prix 1991
Watch highlights from the 1991 Spanish Grand Prix as Nigel Mansell wins an early battle with Ayrton Senna before going on to win the rain-affected race.

Technical Changes - Bahrain
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/

News

Suspended three-race ban for McLaren
McLaren has been handed a suspended three-race ban by the World Motor Sport Council as its punishment for lying to race stewards in Australia and Malaysia.
BMW ‘temporarily’ abandons KERS
BMW Sauber will not use its kinetic energy recovery system on either car at this weekend’s Spanish Grand Prix.
Force India changes plan on KERS
Force India has dropped plans to race with a kinetic energy recovery system for the first time in this weekend’s Spanish Grand Prix.
Brawn hopes upgrade will keep it ahead
Ross Brawn hopes the upgrade package his team will introduce on its car at this weekend’s Spanish Grand Prix will be enough to keep it ahead of the chasing pack, but admits the competition is intensifying at the front.
BMW pins hopes on massive upgrade
BMW Sauber expects a 'significant' improvement in its pace when it introduces a swathe of upgrades for the Spanish Grand Prix, but with so many of its rivals doing likewise, the team is unsure whether its development efforts will pay off.

Senna remembered
Senna's death on 1 May 15 years ago changed F1 forever, but his life also had an indelible effect.

Senna remembered
Michael Schumacher may statistically be the greatest Grand Prix driver who ever lived, but to many who watched Ayrton Senna's career no-one can equal the brilliant Brazilian.
Senna feature film to start shooting in May
A documentary feature film about the legendary Brazilian racer Ayrton Senna will begin shooting next month, makers Working Title Films have confirmed. Spanning Senna's Formula One career from 1984 to his untimely death a decade later, the film will explore the life and work of the triple world champion, his physical and spiritual achievements on the track, his quest for perfection and the mythical status he has since attained.
Formula One: Remembering Ayrton Senna 15 years later
Formula One marks a tragic anniversary May 1: Fifteen years since the death of three-time world champion Ayrton Senna, one of the most charismatic and successful drivers the sport has ever known.
Roland Ratzenberger
Roland Ratzenberger tragically crashed and died in only the third event of an F1 career that had taken him 34 years to begin.

The track and TV coverage starts

Technical changes Spain
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/

Inside F1 - Spanish Grand Prix preview
Dan Walker is joined by the BBC Sport website's F1 editor Andrew Benson to preview the Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona.

Practice 1
Replay - Spanish GP first practice
Highlights - Button fastest in Spain

Practice 2
Replay - Spanish GP second practice
Highlights - Rosberg sets the pace in Spain

Practice 3

Qaulifying

Button's in-car pole lap in Barcelona
Watch Jenson Button's pole position lap for the Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona.

Highlights - Spanish GP qualifying
Brawn GP's Jenson Button snatches pole for the Spanish Grand Prix from Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel in the dying moments of an exciting qualifying session in Barcelona.

Top-three qualifying reaction (press conference)
Watch the full post-qualifying TV interview with pole-sitter Jenson Button, second-placed Sebastian Vettel and third-placed Rubens Barrichello

Fuel Loads

Race
Results
Standings

Briggykins · 07-05-2009, 13:26

Be interesting to see if the new aero regs have improved overtaking at Barcelona - my hunch is it probably hasn't

KERS might help a bit though, if anyone apart from McLaren is still running it.
Pre-practice prediction - Button for the pole and the win, but think another car might slip in between the two Brawns for the quali.
Incidentally, the much-maligned James Allen has a good piece on what new bits the teams are running in Barcelona. Despite all the talk of more performance for Spain, it doesn't seem that there's anything particularly ground breaking appearing.

Burble · 07-05-2009, 13:46

I'm expecting this race to be a Procession, with a capital P.

Glaucus · 07-05-2009, 14:36

I don't think these regs have affected over taking at all. The cars are just closer together as the rules are so tight and such a big change. teams haven't had years to perfect their teams with 100's of millions of £.

Glaucus · 09-05-2009, 14:08

Yes, just oh so yes..
Button on fire!!!

Knipples · 09-05-2009, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcidHell2

Yes, just oh so yes..
Button on fire!!!

I dont know where he pulled that lap from, but I liked it!

Feek · 09-05-2009, 19:43

We're going out for truncheon tomorrow so I'm not going to be able to watch it live. Sky+ is set.

Briggykins · 10-05-2009, 15:16

Quite a good race in the end for Spain. Surprised at Brawn's strategy for Barrichello though, it was almost as if, as Brundle suggested, they deliberately hobbled him so Button could take the victory. Good drive from Webber, but felt sorry for Massa (unusually).

Glaucus · 10-05-2009, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briggykins

Quite a good race in the end for Spain. Surprised at Brawn's strategy for Barrichello though, it was almost as if, as Brundle suggested, they deliberately hobbled him so Button could take the victory. Good drive from Webber, but felt sorry for Massa (unusually).

No they didn't grr, brundle is an annoying *****
both brawns where on a 3stop strategy, they changed Button.
Barrechelo got the lap times needed and built up more time than he needed. 14 seconds. He needed a total of 24seconds. All he had to do was build another 10 seconds on his third stint but he didn't. He simply did not put he lap times in that where needed and more importantly expected. There is no reason he should not of been able to pump in the same times as the previous stint.

lostkat · 10-05-2009, 16:31

Agreed, AH. I don't think there was any favouritism from the Brawn garage at all. I think they're more interested in team finishes than favouring either driver. Even Rubens said that himself. It just didn't work for him on a 3 stop. Sounds like there was a tyre issue and he just couldn't keep the pace up. Shame because his start was fantastic

Still, cracking podium though

Did anyone else hear Webber say the F word??

Felt a bit sorry for Felipe baby and his fuel crisis.

06-05-2009, 17:38	#1
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	BARCELONA Grand Prix 2009 - Race 5/17 Hope I'm not stepping on anyones toes (delete this thread if I am), but it's Wednesday and I can't see a thread. Thought some people might be interested in some news as well, as a lo of people don't read much between races. TV times: BARCELONA - SPAIN Friday 8 May First practice: 0855-1035, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online Second practice: 1255-1435, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online Inside F1: 1830-1845, BBC News Channel, then looped on the Red Button. The show is repeated on Saturday at 1830 on the News Channel. Saturday 9 May Third practice: 1000-1100, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online Qualifying: 1210-1415, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online Qualifying replay: 1800-1000 (Sunday), BBC Red Button Sunday 10 May Race: 1210-1500, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online Race re-run: 1600-1100 (Tuesday), BBC Red Button Interactive Forum: 1500-1600, BBC Red Button/online Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/BBC Red Button/online Standings: Track: BBC Circuit Guide Track Diagram Circuit information Length: 4.655km Race distance: 66 laps / 305.256km Full throttle: 57% Top speed: 308kph Longest flat-out section: 16s / 1.14km Right/left-hand turns: 9/7 Tyre wear: Medium Brake wear: high Downforce level: High Gear changes per lap: 44 2009 tyre compounds: hard, soft (green markings) 2008 tyre compounds: hard, medium (white markings) Average fuel consumption: 2.271kg per lap (source: Williams) Pit lane time loss: 22 seconds Classic Spanish Grand Prix Classic F1 - Spanish Grand Prix 1981 extended highlights Watch the BBC's Grand Prix from the 1981 Spanish F1 race, as Ferrari's Gilles Villeneuve leads home a five-car train that was separated by just 1.24 seconds. Classic F1 - Spanish Grand Prix 1986 extended highlights Watch the BBC's Grand Prix from the 1986 Spanish race as Ayrton Senna holds off Nigel Mansell's late charge in one of the closest finishes in F1 history. Classic F1 - Spanish Grand Prix 1991 Watch highlights from the 1991 Spanish Grand Prix as Nigel Mansell wins an early battle with Ayrton Senna before going on to win the rain-affected race. Technical Changes - Bahrain http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ News Suspended three-race ban for McLaren McLaren has been handed a suspended three-race ban by the World Motor Sport Council as its punishment for lying to race stewards in Australia and Malaysia. BMW ‘temporarily’ abandons KERS BMW Sauber will not use its kinetic energy recovery system on either car at this weekend’s Spanish Grand Prix. Force India changes plan on KERS Force India has dropped plans to race with a kinetic energy recovery system for the first time in this weekend’s Spanish Grand Prix. Brawn hopes upgrade will keep it ahead Ross Brawn hopes the upgrade package his team will introduce on its car at this weekend’s Spanish Grand Prix will be enough to keep it ahead of the chasing pack, but admits the competition is intensifying at the front. BMW pins hopes on massive upgrade BMW Sauber expects a 'significant' improvement in its pace when it introduces a swathe of upgrades for the Spanish Grand Prix, but with so many of its rivals doing likewise, the team is unsure whether its development efforts will pay off. Senna remembered Senna's death on 1 May 15 years ago changed F1 forever, but his life also had an indelible effect. Senna remembered Michael Schumacher may statistically be the greatest Grand Prix driver who ever lived, but to many who watched Ayrton Senna's career no-one can equal the brilliant Brazilian. Senna feature film to start shooting in May A documentary feature film about the legendary Brazilian racer Ayrton Senna will begin shooting next month, makers Working Title Films have confirmed. Spanning Senna's Formula One career from 1984 to his untimely death a decade later, the film will explore the life and work of the triple world champion, his physical and spiritual achievements on the track, his quest for perfection and the mythical status he has since attained. Formula One: Remembering Ayrton Senna 15 years later Formula One marks a tragic anniversary May 1: Fifteen years since the death of three-time world champion Ayrton Senna, one of the most charismatic and successful drivers the sport has ever known. Roland Ratzenberger Roland Ratzenberger tragically crashed and died in only the third event of an F1 career that had taken him 34 years to begin. The track and TV coverage starts Technical changes Spain http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ Inside F1 - Spanish Grand Prix preview Dan Walker is joined by the BBC Sport website's F1 editor Andrew Benson to preview the Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona. Practice 1 Replay - Spanish GP first practice Highlights - Button fastest in Spain Practice 2 Replay - Spanish GP second practice Highlights - Rosberg sets the pace in Spain Practice 3 Qaulifying Button's in-car pole lap in Barcelona Watch Jenson Button's pole position lap for the Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona. Highlights - Spanish GP qualifying Brawn GP's Jenson Button snatches pole for the Spanish Grand Prix from Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel in the dying moments of an exciting qualifying session in Barcelona. Top-three qualifying reaction (press conference) Watch the full post-qualifying TV interview with pole-sitter Jenson Button, second-placed Sebastian Vettel and third-placed Rubens Barrichello Fuel Loads Race Results Standings __________________ Last edited by Glaucus; 09-05-2009 at 18:29.

07-05-2009, 13:26	#2
Briggykins Vodka Martini Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Exeter Posts: 753	Be interesting to see if the new aero regs have improved overtaking at Barcelona - my hunch is it probably hasn't KERS might help a bit though, if anyone apart from McLaren is still running it. Pre-practice prediction - Button for the pole and the win, but think another car might slip in between the two Brawns for the quali. Incidentally, the much-maligned James Allen has a good piece on what new bits the teams are running in Barcelona. Despite all the talk of more performance for Spain, it doesn't seem that there's anything particularly ground breaking appearing. __________________

07-05-2009, 14:36	#4
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	I don't think these regs have affected over taking at all. The cars are just closer together as the rules are so tight and such a big change. teams haven't had years to perfect their teams with 100's of millions of £. __________________

09-05-2009, 14:08	#5
Glaucus Absinthe Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,855	Yes, just oh so yes.. Button on fire!!! __________________

09-05-2009, 19:43	#7
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	We're going out for truncheon tomorrow so I'm not going to be able to watch it live. Sky+ is set. __________________

07-05-2009, 13:46	#3
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	I'm expecting this race to be a Procession, with a capital P.

10-05-2009, 15:16	#8
Briggykins Vodka Martini Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Exeter Posts: 753	Quite a good race in the end for Spain. Surprised at Brawn's strategy for Barrichello though, it was almost as if, as Brundle suggested, they deliberately hobbled him so Button could take the victory. Good drive from Webber, but felt sorry for Massa (unusually). __________________

10-05-2009, 16:31	#10
lostkat Good Cat Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,550	Agreed, AH. I don't think there was any favouritism from the Brawn garage at all. I think they're more interested in team finishes than favouring either driver. Even Rubens said that himself. It just didn't work for him on a 3 stop. Sounds like there was a tyre issue and he just couldn't keep the pace up. Shame because his start was fantastic Still, cracking podium though Did anyone else hear Webber say the F word?? Felt a bit sorry for Felipe baby and his fuel crisis. __________________ Oooooh Cecil, what have you done?