Running Problem

Matblack · 31-05-2011, 19:06

Right, I went for gait analysis tonight at a reputable running shop, the chap there made the same face as a mechanic makes before be breaks the news that your chassis is kackered and you need a lot of work.

By all accounts my toes are far too turned out when I run which translates to a lot of shear stress on my calf/ achilles and is causing my injuries.

It would appear that this isn't going to be an easy fix and at the moment he wants me to see the physio for a quick check then he thinks that some custom molded insoles, stretches and a concious change in my technique will all be on the cards, also I need to lay off the distance work which will bugger up my prep for the 5Ks I have planned

Expensive, time consuming and painful but that isn't going to put me off

MB

Von Smallhausen · 31-05-2011, 19:55

Stick with it Mat and the benefits will outweigh the cost and inconvenience.

I am just about addicted to running at the minute. I am running 3 miles 4-5 times a week.

I bought some Reebok DMX for a bargain £25 and they are very comfortable to run in. Conversely, a pair of £74 Adidas Climacool are not although they are not too bad. The main issue I have at the minute is mildly sore shins so I am thinking of visiting a specialist running shop and getting the full gait monty doing.

I am after a GPS watch that Nike do that shows distance and calories so I could combine the two in a visit.

I have gone from despising running to enjoying it since mam had her heart attack although the first 3 weeks were very hard when I started.

Mark · 31-05-2011, 20:08

Similar problem here. Physio, insoles and stretches cost me £45 all-in (I went back for a couple more sessions at £40 each to make sure and cure some other issues - picked up some spare insoles for other shoes at the last session at £3 each).

Can't beat a good physio and mine came recommended (local Nuffield Health gym).

Much prefer Reebok to Adidas here too, though my old Reeboks show the evidence of not having the right insoles (they're knackered).

Good luck and hope it works out for you.

Jonny69 · 31-05-2011, 22:12

If you'll excuse my cynicism, I think that sounds like a load of old bollocks. Shoes cause injuries when you've got the wrong ones and you're doing big distance in them. 5K will not cause injuries. The fact is, you've jumped straight in at the deep and and gone hell for leather at it. You're carrying some weight Matt, and running long and hard and that's what's caused your injury. My personal opinion is give it time and you'll stengthen up, your gait will straighten up and you won't need 'special' insoles or trainers.

I used to run really turned out and ended up with a knee injury early on, but a concious effort to correct my technique and taking it easy was all it took. I even stand and walk straighter now.

But do take it easy. The worst thing you can do is rush back into it.

divine · 31-05-2011, 22:18

I would always be cynical of the man who tells you that you have a problem and offers to sell you the/a solution.

Where possible in life, I prefer to keep the two apart.

Mark · 31-05-2011, 22:37

Well, if you want the really skeptical answer, the truth is we should all be running barefoot. Forget all the shoes, gait analysis, insoles, air cushions, marketing hyperbole, and all the rest. We didn't evolve to wear shoes, and there's plenty of science to suggest that for all the modern 'technology', barefoot is still the best way. Probably not on city streets though - especially on Sunday morning.

So the next best is getting the right shoe. You might think it's all bollocks but the simple truth is we're all different, so a 'one size fits all' shoe is never going to work for everyone. Insoles are a compromise, yes, but one designed for the individual.

You can of course train yourself to adapt to the shoe - but should you?

divine · 31-05-2011, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Mark

So the next best is getting the right shoe.

I thought the current in thing was the vibram five fingers?

TinkerBell · 31-05-2011, 22:43

Sorry to hear you are having problems.

I think if you know you have found someone who knows what they are on about and have had good feedback from other people with problems then you would be silly not to listen to it. Why would you not pay for your health if you can afford it? You only get one body afterall.

I hope it all works out for you Matt

Matblack · 31-05-2011, 22:46

Yeah, I think I should just keep what I'm doing until my calf explodes and I get a type three injury which puts me on crutches for 6 months.

It's pretty hard to get gait analysis round here and interestingly they didn't want to sell me new shoes or a load of other stuff, I could try and get an NHS referal to a physio but I'd be waiting for six months. The chap I saw seemed genuine enough most of the staff at Sweatshop are well trained and enthusiastic runners themselves, this guy suggested I get checked by a physio because my running style is pretty extreme which is understandable given how long I was carrying extra weight.

I've now injured myself twice without pushing too hard, I'm going to rack back on my running to three times a week maximum which should help but I'm not adverse to trying to stretch more and maybe getting some shoe inserts which are hardly snake oil.

I could spend £40 and try again or I could give up and never run again or feel at risk of popping a calf everytime I put my running shoes on, if a combination of two free things and £40 can help me I'll take it given I've already spend £80 on sports massage its hardly a major investment.

MB

BBx · 31-05-2011, 22:53

Yep. I have seen a man running barefoot in London City :/

I have also seen a girl not running, but wearing these anyway...

They are lol.

BB x

31-05-2011, 19:06	#1
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	Running Problem Right, I went for gait analysis tonight at a reputable running shop, the chap there made the same face as a mechanic makes before be breaks the news that your chassis is kackered and you need a lot of work. By all accounts my toes are far too turned out when I run which translates to a lot of shear stress on my calf/ achilles and is causing my injuries. It would appear that this isn't going to be an easy fix and at the moment he wants me to see the physio for a quick check then he thinks that some custom molded insoles, stretches and a concious change in my technique will all be on the cards, also I need to lay off the distance work which will bugger up my prep for the 5Ks I have planned Expensive, time consuming and painful but that isn't going to put me off MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

31-05-2011, 19:55	#2
Von Smallhausen I'm Free Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tyneside Posts: 3,061	Stick with it Mat and the benefits will outweigh the cost and inconvenience. I am just about addicted to running at the minute. I am running 3 miles 4-5 times a week. I bought some Reebok DMX for a bargain £25 and they are very comfortable to run in. Conversely, a pair of £74 Adidas Climacool are not although they are not too bad. The main issue I have at the minute is mildly sore shins so I am thinking of visiting a specialist running shop and getting the full gait monty doing. I am after a GPS watch that Nike do that shows distance and calories so I could combine the two in a visit. I have gone from despising running to enjoying it since mam had her heart attack although the first 3 weeks were very hard when I started. __________________ " Well, old bean, life is really so bloody awful that I feel it’s my absolute duty to be chirpy and try and make everybody else happy too." David Niven, 1910-1983.

31-05-2011, 20:08	#3
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Similar problem here. Physio, insoles and stretches cost me £45 all-in (I went back for a couple more sessions at £40 each to make sure and cure some other issues - picked up some spare insoles for other shoes at the last session at £3 each). Can't beat a good physio and mine came recommended (local Nuffield Health gym). Much prefer Reebok to Adidas here too, though my old Reeboks show the evidence of not having the right insoles (they're knackered). Good luck and hope it works out for you. Last edited by Mark; 31-05-2011 at 20:11.

31-05-2011, 22:12	#4
Jonny69 Noob Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Socialist Republik of Kent Posts: 5,032	If you'll excuse my cynicism, I think that sounds like a load of old bollocks. Shoes cause injuries when you've got the wrong ones and you're doing big distance in them. 5K will not cause injuries. The fact is, you've jumped straight in at the deep and and gone hell for leather at it. You're carrying some weight Matt, and running long and hard and that's what's caused your injury. My personal opinion is give it time and you'll stengthen up, your gait will straighten up and you won't need 'special' insoles or trainers. I used to run really turned out and ended up with a knee injury early on, but a concious effort to correct my technique and taking it easy was all it took. I even stand and walk straighter now. But do take it easy. The worst thing you can do is rush back into it. __________________

31-05-2011, 22:18	#5
divine Moonshine Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 3,201	I would always be cynical of the man who tells you that you have a problem and offers to sell you the/a solution. Where possible in life, I prefer to keep the two apart. __________________

31-05-2011, 22:37	#6
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Well, if you want the really skeptical answer, the truth is we should all be running barefoot. Forget all the shoes, gait analysis, insoles, air cushions, marketing hyperbole, and all the rest. We didn't evolve to wear shoes, and there's plenty of science to suggest that for all the modern 'technology', barefoot is still the best way. Probably not on city streets though - especially on Sunday morning. So the next best is getting the right shoe. You might think it's all bollocks but the simple truth is we're all different, so a 'one size fits all' shoe is never going to work for everyone. Insoles are a compromise, yes, but one designed for the individual. You can of course train yourself to adapt to the shoe - but should you? Last edited by Mark; 31-05-2011 at 22:39.

31-05-2011, 22:43	#8
TinkerBell Dirty Spammer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the middle! Posts: 2,454	Sorry to hear you are having problems. I think if you know you have found someone who knows what they are on about and have had good feedback from other people with problems then you would be silly not to listen to it. Why would you not pay for your health if you can afford it? You only get one body afterall. I hope it all works out for you Matt __________________

31-05-2011, 22:46	#9
Matblack Baby Bore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Svalbard Posts: 9,770	Yeah, I think I should just keep what I'm doing until my calf explodes and I get a type three injury which puts me on crutches for 6 months. It's pretty hard to get gait analysis round here and interestingly they didn't want to sell me new shoes or a load of other stuff, I could try and get an NHS referal to a physio but I'd be waiting for six months. The chap I saw seemed genuine enough most of the staff at Sweatshop are well trained and enthusiastic runners themselves, this guy suggested I get checked by a physio because my running style is pretty extreme which is understandable given how long I was carrying extra weight. I've now injured myself twice without pushing too hard, I'm going to rack back on my running to three times a week maximum which should help but I'm not adverse to trying to stretch more and maybe getting some shoe inserts which are hardly snake oil. I could spend £40 and try again or I could give up and never run again or feel at risk of popping a calf everytime I put my running shoes on, if a combination of two free things and £40 can help me I'll take it given I've already spend £80 on sports massage its hardly a major investment. MB __________________ "we had roots that grew towards each other underground, and when all the pretty blossom had fallen from our branches we found that we were one tree and not two"

31-05-2011, 22:53	#10
BBx Reverse SuBo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 8,673	Yep. I have seen a man running barefoot in London City :/ I have also seen a girl not running, but wearing these anyway... They are lol. BB x