Eclipse capping usenet?

Feek · 21-01-2007, 17:47

I've not used usenet for a few months, just went back and am trying to download some stuff but it's painfully slow (61Kbps).

Does anyone know if Eclipse have started capping usenet traffic? I'll be pretty pissed off if they are as I've just paid for six months subscription via a third party provider.

Mark · 21-01-2007, 18:27

My personal view is that everyone traffic shapes now. If they don't, they either will soon, or they'll be out of business soon. Even Entanet who were widely regarded as the best for big downloaders have had to start throttling bandwidth, though their approach is somewhat novel and may actually benefit big downloaders.

ADSLguide may have more details on your specific problem, but like every other ISP I can think of, it's full of people bitching about slow speeds, so good luck finding details.

Garp · 21-01-2007, 19:32

We don't traffic shape at all. Too much hassle at the moment.

Mark · 21-01-2007, 23:45

You don't deal with customers who think they have a god given right to a 1:1 contended service for £25 pm or less though, so that point is somewhat moot.

Garp · 22-01-2007, 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

You don't deal with customers who think they have a god given right to a 1:1 contended service for £25 pm or less though, so that point is somewhat moot.

True

Curious stat for you, one days worth of news archives on the clara.net news servers comes to 2.5Tb.

Burble · 22-01-2007, 09:44

Accessing over nntp or http, Feekles? I did read a few months back (on adslguide.org.uk as it was then) about some ISP's capping nntp but don't remember if Eclipse was one of those mentioned.

Feek · 23-01-2007, 18:32

I logged a support call to ask.

Quote:

Dear Feek,

Our services include a Fair Usage policy. This affects users who use FTP, P2P and USENET during peak hours. The amount of data you can transfer using these protocols varies depending on which product you subscribe to.

Further information on our Fair Usage policy can be found here:
http://www.eclipse.net.uk/index.cfm?id=fixedfup_res

As well as the Fair Usage policy, we use Traffic Management. This means the on our Evolution products, the higher the Option - the more prioritisation across our network you receive.

Further information on our Traffic Management can be found here:
http://www.eclipse.net.uk/index.cfm?id=contention_res

I hope this helps.

Kind Regards,

Sarah Spittle
Technical Support
Eclipse Internet
For technical support information and advice, please visit our Knowledge Base at http://kb.eclipse.net.uk
*** Ticket 826109 was updated on 23-01-07 10:12 ***

I pay for their highest level of home use which according to that link has a limit of 50Gb/month during peak times which are 18:00-00:00

No chance I'm going to get anywhere near that level during those times so the level isn't a problem but I have noticed that the newsgroups are faster when I look in the morning so they obviously are shaping at certain times.

Mark · 23-01-2007, 18:40

Same deal as PlusNet then, just not as bad as them - I'd have great difficulty hitting their peak caps with my current usage pattern, but I still have to make sure I keep large amounts of encrypted and P2P traffic outside peak times.

21-01-2007, 17:47	#1
Feek ex SAS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: JO01ou Posts: 10,062	Eclipse capping usenet? I've not used usenet for a few months, just went back and am trying to download some stuff but it's painfully slow (61Kbps). Does anyone know if Eclipse have started capping usenet traffic? I'll be pretty pissed off if they are as I've just paid for six months subscription via a third party provider. __________________

21-01-2007, 19:32	#3
Garp Preparing more tumbleweed Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 6,038	We don't traffic shape at all. Too much hassle at the moment. __________________ Mal: Define "interesting"? Wash: "Oh, God, oh, God, we're all gonna die"?

21-01-2007, 18:27	#2
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	My personal view is that everyone traffic shapes now. If they don't, they either will soon, or they'll be out of business soon. Even Entanet who were widely regarded as the best for big downloaders have had to start throttling bandwidth, though their approach is somewhat novel and may actually benefit big downloaders. ADSLguide may have more details on your specific problem, but like every other ISP I can think of, it's full of people bitching about slow speeds, so good luck finding details.

21-01-2007, 23:45	#4
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	You don't deal with customers who think they have a god given right to a 1:1 contended service for £25 pm or less though, so that point is somewhat moot.

22-01-2007, 09:44	#6
Burble Rocket Fuel Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,826	Accessing over nntp or http, Feekles? I did read a few months back (on adslguide.org.uk as it was then) about some ISP's capping nntp but don't remember if Eclipse was one of those mentioned.

23-01-2007, 18:40	#8
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	Same deal as PlusNet then, just not as bad as them - I'd have great difficulty hitting their peak caps with my current usage pattern, but I still have to make sure I keep large amounts of encrypted and P2P traffic outside peak times.