Web Design... :)

Pheebs · 22-09-2007, 09:30

Hello people!

*wubbles*

As you all probably know I am a complete NOOB when it comes to webby designs.

I know I'm not going to be able to do it all myself (unless I want something that looks like it's been produced from google web page) and really am looking for as much help as I can get! *nudge nudge, wink wink*

It's for my card designs so I really need something that looks superb! I've got a fair few ideas of how I want to set it up. So really, I need to draw out these ideas on CS3 - ie back grounds, button looks, pix and things... but this is where I become stuck.

The kinda webby I'll be looking at doing will be similar style to the Bang on the Door webby, in the respect that I would like the page to be able to fit more or less onto one screen without scrolling too much (does that make sense?!) but without all they flashy-washy bits and things! There will hopefully be some animation but not like that! (bit too kiddiyish for what I want

)

I don't like the Juicy Lucy look as it's all a bit too much and bitty.

So... what I need to know is if there are any standard sizes I need to take into consideration? Width of screens and height etc? Size of buttons?!! *confusing*

This thread is just the beginning of what I imagine to be a very very long thread of "I don't get it's" and "how'ds this work?" and "what does this do?" and "eh?!"

So massive thank you's n advance for your help and mahoosiver apologies about my thickness! I'm a complete n00b so things may require uber dumbage downage

Thank you so so so SO SO much again!

You guys have already done so much for me and I am so appreciative! I promise you all you will not be forgotten when I manage to get this lot up and running!

*huggles*

Davey_Pitch · 22-09-2007, 10:57

I think the most common size these days would be 1024*768, but ideally your website would be scalable up and down as there will always be people using smaller and larger resolutions.

What you could possibly do is to create a couple of versions of your website, perhaps one to work in lower resolutions and one to work in higher, then create a bit of javascript or something like that on your welcome page which detects what resolution the user is running and direct them to the appropriate web page. I did something similar years ago and it doesn't mean *that* much extra work when you've got your basis webpage sorted out.

Pheebs · 22-09-2007, 12:24

Thank you muchly DP for the sizes - I was waaaaaay off!

Thanks for the offer Kitten - I shall keep you in mind

I think... after playing around all morning... I'm going to need Macromedia Fireworks and Flash to be able to produce something that doesn't look too shabby.

Just tried to remote access them from my school... but it was uber chug! So looking up prices now!

Pheebs · 22-09-2007, 12:29

How MUCH does it want to be?!!? £400 - £500! Blooming heck man. Stupid stuff. Stupid stupid stupid.

Well screw buying that for a laugh!

Heh. That leaves me royally stuck. Might have to do the work at school after work. Bah. BAH BAH Bah.

Pheebs · 22-09-2007, 12:31

You don't happen to be on MSN at the mo are you Miss Kitten!?

Joe 90 · 22-09-2007, 12:37

whoo for web design

good to see the site's you've referenced use divs and not tables

curse tables!

if you need any help with anything let me know

and depending on how adventurous you get you might want to check out http://sampsonresume.com/forums/
i've been a member there for ages and theres brilliant web design video tutorials for everything, basic pages, javascript, php, mysql... etc...
plus plenty of decent web designers to help with general questions

Mark · 22-09-2007, 12:45

I'll join you in putting a hex on tables. And, whatever, you do, please don't use Frontpage (or heaven forbid, Word). Though it looks like you already know that, which is good.

I agree with the resolution choice of 1024x768 too (still is my resolution of choice at work though the monitor upgrade at home has convinced me to go higher there).

And LOL at Kitten's subtle hints.

Pheebs · 22-09-2007, 13:05

tbh... I'm not going to be able to do the website myself

. (As in... set it up or anything. I have tried and tried in the past and faaaaaailed miserably!)

My plan was to draw all the piccies (background, buttons, animations etc) and then put them together to show my webby design layout and things... and then try and find someone with much more knowledge than I and see whether they can make it work like a website! I think it's going to take me a while to get to that stage though!

I really am that pants at it

Mark · 22-09-2007, 13:08

There's plenty of people around here that I'm sure will be glad to help. I could handle the coding side of things if necessary (I'm just poop at design), but there are people here with plenty more experience than myself.

Pheebs · 22-09-2007, 13:28

Aww fankoo Mark! *huggles*

Picky just told me that the webby would be quite HTML-ie (*shrugs*) if I do it how I described. I dunno if I can create wee animations to put onto the webby or whether I would need to do it myself in code on the webby (make sense? It just about does to me! Hehehe!) As soon as I get my hands on fireworks I will have a play around and see what I can conjur up ... bit scarey tbh!

I don't know whether to do a simple one to begin with and then work on a bigger better one whilst the simple ones up! I personally think I need as much exposure as possible... but Picky seems to think I need to get the licensing sorted first?! *confuddled*

We'll see!

22-09-2007, 09:30	#1
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	Web Design... :) Hello people! wubbles As you all probably know I am a complete NOOB when it comes to webby designs. I know I'm not going to be able to do it all myself (unless I want something that looks like it's been produced from google web page) and really am looking for as much help as I can get! nudge nudge, wink wink It's for my card designs so I really need something that looks superb! I've got a fair few ideas of how I want to set it up. So really, I need to draw out these ideas on CS3 - ie back grounds, button looks, pix and things... but this is where I become stuck. The kinda webby I'll be looking at doing will be similar style to the Bang on the Door webby, in the respect that I would like the page to be able to fit more or less onto one screen without scrolling too much (does that make sense?!) but without all they flashy-washy bits and things! There will hopefully be some animation but not like that! (bit too kiddiyish for what I want ) I don't like the Juicy Lucy look as it's all a bit too much and bitty. So... what I need to know is if there are any standard sizes I need to take into consideration? Width of screens and height etc? Size of buttons?!! confusing This thread is just the beginning of what I imagine to be a very very long thread of "I don't get it's" and "how'ds this work?" and "what does this do?" and "eh?!" So massive thank you's n advance for your help and mahoosiver apologies about my thickness! I'm a complete n00b so things may require uber dumbage downage Thank you so so so SO SO much again! You guys have already done so much for me and I am so appreciative! I promise you all you will not be forgotten when I manage to get this lot up and running! huggles __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

22-09-2007, 10:57	#2
Davey_Pitch I iz speshul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 6,296	I think the most common size these days would be 1024768, but ideally your website would be scalable up and down as there will always be people using smaller and larger resolutions. What you could possibly do is to create a couple of versions of your website, perhaps one to work in lower resolutions and one to work in higher, then create a bit of javascript or something like that on your welcome page which detects what resolution the user is running and direct them to the appropriate web page. I did something similar years ago and it doesn't mean that* much extra work when you've got your basis webpage sorted out. __________________ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine as children do. It's not just in some of us; it is in everyone. And as we let our own lights shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

22-09-2007, 12:24	#3
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	Thank you muchly DP for the sizes - I was waaaaaay off! Thanks for the offer Kitten - I shall keep you in mind I think... after playing around all morning... I'm going to need Macromedia Fireworks and Flash to be able to produce something that doesn't look too shabby. Just tried to remote access them from my school... but it was uber chug! So looking up prices now! __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

22-09-2007, 12:29	#4
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	How MUCH does it want to be?!!? £400 - £500! Blooming heck man. Stupid stuff. Stupid stupid stupid. Well screw buying that for a laugh! Heh. That leaves me royally stuck. Might have to do the work at school after work. Bah. BAH BAH Bah. __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

22-09-2007, 12:31	#5
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	You don't happen to be on MSN at the mo are you Miss Kitten!? __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

22-09-2007, 12:37	#6
Joe 90 Absinthe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chester Posts: 2,345	whoo for web design good to see the site's you've referenced use divs and not tables curse tables! if you need any help with anything let me know and depending on how adventurous you get you might want to check out http://sampsonresume.com/forums/ i've been a member there for ages and theres brilliant web design video tutorials for everything, basic pages, javascript, php, mysql... etc... plus plenty of decent web designers to help with general questions __________________ 360 Blog \| Join GiffGaff \| Twitter Last edited by Joe 90; 22-09-2007 at 14:08.

22-09-2007, 12:45	#7
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	I'll join you in putting a hex on tables. And, whatever, you do, please don't use Frontpage (or heaven forbid, Word). Though it looks like you already know that, which is good. I agree with the resolution choice of 1024x768 too (still is my resolution of choice at work though the monitor upgrade at home has convinced me to go higher there). And LOL at Kitten's subtle hints.

22-09-2007, 13:05	#8
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	tbh... I'm not going to be able to do the website myself . (As in... set it up or anything. I have tried and tried in the past and faaaaaailed miserably!) My plan was to draw all the piccies (background, buttons, animations etc) and then put them together to show my webby design layout and things... and then try and find someone with much more knowledge than I and see whether they can make it work like a website! I think it's going to take me a while to get to that stage though! I really am that pants at it __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk

22-09-2007, 13:08	#9
Mark Screaming Orgasm Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newbury Posts: 15,194	There's plenty of people around here that I'm sure will be glad to help. I could handle the coding side of things if necessary (I'm just poop at design), but there are people here with plenty more experience than myself.

22-09-2007, 13:28	#10
Pheebs Deep Throat Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,512	Aww fankoo Mark! huggles Picky just told me that the webby would be quite HTML-ie (shrugs) if I do it how I described. I dunno if I can create wee animations to put onto the webby or whether I would need to do it myself in code on the webby (make sense? It just about does to me! Hehehe!) As soon as I get my hands on fireworks I will have a play around and see what I can conjur up ... bit scarey tbh! I don't know whether to do a simple one to begin with and then work on a bigger better one whilst the simple ones up! I personally think I need as much exposure as possible... but Picky seems to think I need to get the licensing sorted first?! confuddled We'll see! __________________ http://www.spiffingdesigns.co.uk