Water Cooling Shopping List

Admiral Huddy · 04-03-2008, 16:05

Here's what I have so far

Is there anything else I need?

I'm a little unsure what it means by the barb size and the compatibility of the tube sizes. Both the pump is 3/8" but I'm not sure about everything else?

Water solution?

All comments are welcome:

Dr. Z · 04-03-2008, 16:31

You will need something to stop algae from growing in your reservoir and you will need to use deionised water to minimise galvanic corrosion. Some fans for the radiator might be a good idea too!

No idea about the brand of pump and/or what comes with it. Eheim or Hydor used to be the brands to trust. I also had a device that connected to a molex connector inside the PC so that the pump turned on and off with the PC power and the power to the pump was a t-piece connector that sat inline with the PC's power cable so that you couldnt turn one on without the other.

Is this your first watercooling setup? I will post you some tips if it is

Admiral Huddy · 04-03-2008, 17:26

Certainly is.. I'm going to be installling this on to an test PC first, then once i'm happy, i'll transfer to main PC.

Dymetrie · 04-03-2008, 17:35

So what are the benefits of watercooling?

Other than obviously being better at cooling and so enabling you to run at lower temps/run at higher speed at the same temps?

Is it significantly quieter? For example.

Not being interested in overclocking, but definitely being interested in making my poota quieter, then if I could afford it would you advise it?

*NB: My brother was asking me about water cooling for his mediacentre PC which keeps overheating*

Admiral Huddy · 04-03-2008, 17:41

@ 3.4GHz things are rather toasty and noisy. Need to bring both temps and noise down a tad and possibly get to 3.8Ghz

If his MM PC is overheating, there maybe a problem. So it might be just a case of reseating the fan or replacing.

Dymetrie · 04-03-2008, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Huddy

@ 3.4GHz things are rather toasty and noisy. Need to bring both temps and noise down a tad and possibly get to 3.8Ghz

If his MM PC is overheating, there maybe a problem. So it might be just a case of reseating the fan or replacing.

Cleaned up the entire thing before getting it running, along with reseating the heatsink (along with thermal paste) and making sure the airflow was working properly...

Was an old shuttle I got off someone here...

Could be where it is and possibly the fan, so will look into that first.

Zirax · 04-03-2008, 21:41

This is a braindump and I could add to this but it should help.

Ok, first thing is you will want some fan controllers. Main reason being you won't need to run the fans at 100% all the time. Also buy good fans, my Nexus 120mm ones cost 10-12 each and are worth every penny.

Get a ruler out and measure the size of the 120.2. Where are you going to mount it? Also think about the case layout as you'll be surprised at the amount of room it takes up.

Ek CPU waterblock - I have one and i'm not impressed. Its not on the recommended list on XS. Its a very very high restriction block ie your pump will work very hard and make a racket. Ideally you want a low restriction block just for an increased flow rate. I think Dangerden do an RBX block for 775 cpu's. If I had the choice I would get one, the difference would be 2-3c at most.

Get a backplate for your 775 board at EKwaterblocks.com. Also get the other blocks from there (Slovenia).

GFX waterblock - EK waterblocks are good here, low restriction and are a better design than the dangerdens. Are you going to cool the gfx card? Personally I would as they make the most racket of anything in your case. If so your 120.2 is not going to cut it.

Lose the fancy pants tubing, are you going to put neon lights in your case and bask in the Uber leetness? If not get some bog standard stuff. I've used cheapy and Tygon 1/2" hoses. The Tygon is stiffer but its not enough over the standard stuff to warrant the extra cost.

None of the above kit comes with barbs, you need to add your own. Also get some worm clamps from B&Q to clamp the hoses to the barbs. Some people use spring clips, I prefer the security knowing its on their damn tight.

-------------------
Infact have a read here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

Go through the watercooling stickies and read the posts. This is where I started many moons ago. The info there is excellent

Darrin · 04-03-2008, 23:50

Admiral Huddy · 05-03-2008, 10:40

lol @ Darrin.

Ok, stupid question, what are the barbs. On the website there's a drop down list for this,

I was thinking of the D tek Fuzion but I've read that they require dismantling and cleaning before fitting?

Admiral Huddy · 05-03-2008, 11:03

Thanks Zirax..

I've hredone the list with links.. Have a look, see what you think.

CPU block Choices:

D-Tek Fuzion This asks about the barb size?
or
DangerDen MC TDX - Again asks about the barb size?

GFX Block

EK-FC8800 8800GTX/Ultra

Radiator:

Thermochil 120.2 - as above

This fit nicely in my tank

Fans

Couldn't find the Nexus, but the Scythes are pretty good:

2 x Scythe S-FLEX 1200RPM Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3/4 pin

Pump

12v Laing DDC1 Ultra 18w

Reservoir

Laing DDC Top/w Reservoir (XSPC) - Barb size??

Tubing

3m of 3/8" Clearflex 60 Hose

Coolent

Feser One Cooling Fluid - UV BLUE

Clips from B&Q

No what barb sizes do I need?

Is the above ok?

Anything I've missed?

04-03-2008, 16:05	#1
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	Water Cooling Shopping List Here's what I have so far Is there anything else I need? I'm a little unsure what it means by the barb size and the compatibility of the tube sizes. Both the pump is 3/8" but I'm not sure about everything else? Water solution? All comments are welcome: __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

04-03-2008, 16:31	#2
Dr. Z I'm going for a scuttle... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,021	You will need something to stop algae from growing in your reservoir and you will need to use deionised water to minimise galvanic corrosion. Some fans for the radiator might be a good idea too! No idea about the brand of pump and/or what comes with it. Eheim or Hydor used to be the brands to trust. I also had a device that connected to a molex connector inside the PC so that the pump turned on and off with the PC power and the power to the pump was a t-piece connector that sat inline with the PC's power cable so that you couldnt turn one on without the other. Is this your first watercooling setup? I will post you some tips if it is __________________

04-03-2008, 17:26	#3
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	Certainly is.. I'm going to be installling this on to an test PC first, then once i'm happy, i'll transfer to main PC. __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

04-03-2008, 17:35	#4
Dymetrie A large glass of Merlot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Letchworth with a Lightsaber Posts: 5,819	So what are the benefits of watercooling? Other than obviously being better at cooling and so enabling you to run at lower temps/run at higher speed at the same temps? Is it significantly quieter? For example. Not being interested in overclocking, but definitely being interested in making my poota quieter, then if I could afford it would you advise it? NB: My brother was asking me about water cooling for his mediacentre PC which keeps overheating __________________ Khef, Ka and Ka-Tet....

04-03-2008, 17:41	#5
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	@ 3.4GHz things are rather toasty and noisy. Need to bring both temps and noise down a tad and possibly get to 3.8Ghz If his MM PC is overheating, there maybe a problem. So it might be just a case of reseating the fan or replacing. __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

04-03-2008, 21:41	#7
Zirax Goes up to 11! Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,577	This is a braindump and I could add to this but it should help. Ok, first thing is you will want some fan controllers. Main reason being you won't need to run the fans at 100% all the time. Also buy good fans, my Nexus 120mm ones cost 10-12 each and are worth every penny. Get a ruler out and measure the size of the 120.2. Where are you going to mount it? Also think about the case layout as you'll be surprised at the amount of room it takes up. Ek CPU waterblock - I have one and i'm not impressed. Its not on the recommended list on XS. Its a very very high restriction block ie your pump will work very hard and make a racket. Ideally you want a low restriction block just for an increased flow rate. I think Dangerden do an RBX block for 775 cpu's. If I had the choice I would get one, the difference would be 2-3c at most. Get a backplate for your 775 board at EKwaterblocks.com. Also get the other blocks from there (Slovenia). GFX waterblock - EK waterblocks are good here, low restriction and are a better design than the dangerdens. Are you going to cool the gfx card? Personally I would as they make the most racket of anything in your case. If so your 120.2 is not going to cut it. Lose the fancy pants tubing, are you going to put neon lights in your case and bask in the Uber leetness? If not get some bog standard stuff. I've used cheapy and Tygon 1/2" hoses. The Tygon is stiffer but its not enough over the standard stuff to warrant the extra cost. None of the above kit comes with barbs, you need to add your own. Also get some worm clamps from B&Q to clamp the hoses to the barbs. Some people use spring clips, I prefer the security knowing its on their damn tight. ------------------- Infact have a read here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ Go through the watercooling stickies and read the posts. This is where I started many moons ago. The info there is excellent Last edited by Zirax; 04-03-2008 at 21:45.

04-03-2008, 23:50	#8
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05-03-2008, 10:40	#9
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	lol @ Darrin. Ok, stupid question, what are the barbs. On the website there's a drop down list for this, I was thinking of the D tek Fuzion but I've read that they require dismantling and cleaning before fitting? __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log

05-03-2008, 11:03	#10
Admiral Huddy HOMO-Sapien Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 6,692	Thanks Zirax.. I've hredone the list with links.. Have a look, see what you think. CPU block Choices: D-Tek Fuzion This asks about the barb size? or DangerDen MC TDX - Again asks about the barb size? GFX Block EK-FC8800 8800GTX/Ultra Radiator: Thermochil 120.2 - as above This fit nicely in my tank Fans Couldn't find the Nexus, but the Scythes are pretty good: 2 x Scythe S-FLEX 1200RPM Ultra Quiet 120mm Fan - 3/4 pin Pump 12v Laing DDC1 Ultra 18w Reservoir Laing DDC Top/w Reservoir (XSPC) - Barb size?? Tubing 3m of 3/8" Clearflex 60 Hose Coolent Feser One Cooling Fluid - UV BLUE Clips from B&Q No what barb sizes do I need? Is the above ok? Anything I've missed? __________________ I just got lost in thought.. It was very unfamiliar territory. Techie Talk \| My gaming Blog \| PC spec \| The Admirals log Last edited by Admiral Huddy; 05-03-2008 at 11:08.