I want to learn the piano !

[Mondo]

First i need to get something to play with....i don't really know what i am doing, all i know is that a piano has 88 keys and it is weighted and a electric keyboard often has 61 keys ant not weighted.

I have looked into what i can get today



http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_...-30/index.html

76 keys, no gizmos, just plain piano keys, not weighted

Or if I really save up i can get this one



http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_...P85/index.html

88 keys, weighted, with pedals !

How imported to get weighted keys? How much of a drawback is learning on a keyboard when transfer to a real piano?

[Pheebs]

It depends really! I started playing the keyboard when I was 6 - it was a bog standard jobby with no frills. As I got older I upped the keyboard and had a technic 2000 I think... it had sensitive keys so the harder you pressed, the louder the sound. I also bought a sustain pedal too.

Whenever I had the opportunity to play on a piano I found it quite a change... but something I could adapt to within a few minutes of playing about. But then... by this stage I had been playing for a go 6 years at least

I don't think weighted keys are necessary, especially if you're just starting off and not anticipating purchasing a grand piano for a few years I would say 100% make sure you go for something with sensitive keys (like my technic) so you can have a piano sounding effect. Otherwise it will sound a bit pants tbh! I should imagine nowedays though it comes as standard - I'm not sure! I would also suggest to get a sustain peddle! Although you probably won't use it to begin with as you'll be too busy learning fun things (like scales and all ), they're SUPERB when you get into it!

I miss my keyboard It's currently in storage as I left it at my parents house (no room as such here) and they're mid moving house. I have heard rumours they're thinking of car booting it :O If this happens, I will have to take it and find room for it! It's my baby!

You'll love the piano... it's absolutely enchanting and such a wonderful thing to play! Good luck

[Pheebs]

LOLOLOL!

This is my baby!



I think he's a bit old now

Keyboard wise I have ALWAYS been told yamaha are the top ones so I would stick with that brand if you can! My technic one... although being my little gem... some of the keys broke (as in, the selection keys not the piano note keys :), which isn't particularly fab! Though... it was severely abused by two small children for a good 7 years (and the rest ) so maybe it is a fairly resilient one!

Awwwwwwwwwwwww

*misses keyboard... even though it is SUPER old and out dated*

[FakeSnake]

I would personally say, get a weighted one

Might be worth looking at a 88 note Midi controller and a decent module.

[Mondo]

I don't really want a keyboard as such as from my brief research so far a keyboard and a digital piano is 2 very different thing. I won't use all that technology and screen in a keyboard you see, i'd get a grand piano if i had the money and the room for it.

[LeperousDust]

Before even reading your thread, i would advise if you're after a keyboard for piano purposes get one with "hammer action" Read up on that, i saw a really decent hammer action midi keyboard/piano on ebay for about £200 i nearly bought that a few months ago. I'll see if i can find it again It's nothing special but its more than enough for what you'll need

Basically theres touch sensitive, or hammer action, hammer action is more realistically weighted, and its what you want if you're after any feel behind a keyboard.

[LeperousDust]

http://www.gear4music.com/PDP220_Dig...echsefv_3.html
That is what i was going to get, and after looking at it again, i kinda want it. I really miss playing the piano when i'm up in Edinburgh

Its the cheapest decent piano/keyboard i can find, and trust me i looked. I wouldn't have any less than that, but if you're willing to spend more than 290 (i'm sure it was cheaper than this though!) there are more choice obviously

[Pheebs]

Originally Posted by Mondo

I don't really want a keyboard as such as from my brief research so far a keyboard and a digital piano is 2 very different thing. I won't use all that technology and screen in a keyboard you see, i'd get a grand piano if i had the money and the room for it.

Heh, my brother was a keyboard nerd and used it for all sorts Sounds like you have a good plan and idea of what you want

I would LOVE to have a big, proper, white grand piano sat in the corner of an open living room with a huuuuuuuuuge drinks cabinet right next to it I would never leave it alone

By the time I'm 33 it will happen

[Chuckles]

Personally I'd look at getting an old Clavinova off ebay for a couple of hundred quid. Assuming you aren't bothered about all the extra sounds and effects, it'll be a lot nicer to play than a keyboard.

I'd also say that it isn't really something you can learn yourself, like guitar. You definately would want to get some lessons with a good tutor

[Mondo]

My sister's boyfriend is grade 8 at piano and he used to teach so i'm going try get a few lessons out of him that bit is not a problem, the problem is getting something i won't regret buying or something i end up upgrading later.