Justice ?

Von Smallhausen · 23-07-2008, 13:22

David Bieber, who killed Pc Ian Broadhurst in cold blood in 2003 and shot two of his colleagues has won an appeal to have his sentence reduced from a whole life term to a minimum of 37 years.

Personally ? I am sickened by it. To murder a police officer while he pleaded for his life after being shot sickens me to to the core and in my world the bastard would have swung from a rope and keyboard aside, I would have pulled the lever myself.

Although 37 years is a long time it still leaves the possibility that he may have liberty at some point and that is something I can never accept.

You can shoot a police officer dead, shoot two others then argue that a whole life term is contravening article 3 of the Human Rights Act on degrading and inhuman punishment ? I despair.

I think Ian Broadhurst will be spinning in his grave and Pcs' Neil Roper and James Banks will feel subtantially more sickened than I am.

This is one of many decisions that are really testing my committment to the job and why I am looking to get out and change career.

BBC News.

leowyatt · 23-07-2008, 13:25

Von the only solution is a bullet to the back of the head. Why should we keep that scumbag alive? Waste of money and resources.

loki · 23-07-2008, 13:33

It just shows how screwed the justice system is. Anyoen who committed such a terrible crime should be punished and be made to repay his debt to society. Imprisoning for life or taking it one step further, capital punishment does nothing to redress the balance.

Out of interest what job do you do Von ?

Chuckles · 23-07-2008, 13:33

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Originally Posted by leowyatt

Von the only solution is a bullet to the back of the head. Why should we keep that scumbag alive? Waste of money and resources.

Because society has no more right to end human life than criminals.

PvtPyle · 23-07-2008, 13:35

Why is shooting a copper while he pleaded for his life any different to shooting anybody else Von? You might be familiar with the case of PC Patrick Dunne (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/20/ukguns.rosiecowan) I am friends with one of his nephews and I know he feels that his uncle's murderer should have been tried and convicted the same way as anyone else. As a police officer, he knew that there were certain risks that he'd have to routinely undertake whilst performing his duties...

leowyatt · 23-07-2008, 13:36

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Originally Posted by starscream

Because society has no more right to end human life than criminals.

sorry his right to life was forfeit when he murdered that other person.

Von Smallhausen · 23-07-2008, 13:36

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Originally Posted by loki

Out of interest what job do you do Von ?

Copper.

iCraig · 23-07-2008, 13:49

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Originally Posted by leowyatt

sorry his right to life was forfeit when he murdered that other person.

Personally, I still don't agree with capital punishment. I can totally see why people call for it in cases such as this. When a cold blooded killer takes a life on purpose, they should have the same done back. However, I'm glad it doesn't get done. Not because the guy doesn't deserve it, but I don't trust anybody, including the state, to have the power to legally end lives at their judgement. It's playing God and nobody should be given the ability to end life. Some people like David Bieber take the ability, and as so, should be removed from society, but not killed in return IMO. I'd like to think society is better than that.

leowyatt · 23-07-2008, 13:53

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Originally Posted by iCraig

so, should be removed from society, but not killed in return IMO

What do we do with them then??

medical testing?

Chuckles · 23-07-2008, 13:55

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Originally Posted by leowyatt

What do we do with them then??

medical testing?

Removing their liberty by locking them in prison until they either are reformed (after an appropriate period of punishment) or die has always suited me.

23-07-2008, 13:22	#1
Von Smallhausen I'm Free Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tyneside Posts: 3,061	Justice ? David Bieber, who killed Pc Ian Broadhurst in cold blood in 2003 and shot two of his colleagues has won an appeal to have his sentence reduced from a whole life term to a minimum of 37 years. Personally ? I am sickened by it. To murder a police officer while he pleaded for his life after being shot sickens me to to the core and in my world the bastard would have swung from a rope and keyboard aside, I would have pulled the lever myself. Although 37 years is a long time it still leaves the possibility that he may have liberty at some point and that is something I can never accept. You can shoot a police officer dead, shoot two others then argue that a whole life term is contravening article 3 of the Human Rights Act on degrading and inhuman punishment ? I despair. I think Ian Broadhurst will be spinning in his grave and Pcs' Neil Roper and James Banks will feel subtantially more sickened than I am. This is one of many decisions that are really testing my committment to the job and why I am looking to get out and change career. BBC News. __________________ " Well, old bean, life is really so bloody awful that I feel itâ€™s my absolute duty to be chirpy and try and make everybody else happy too." David Niven, 1910-1983.

23-07-2008, 13:25	#2
leowyatt Chef extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Infinite Loop Posts: 11,143	Von the only solution is a bullet to the back of the head. Why should we keep that scumbag alive? Waste of money and resources. __________________ "Dr Sheldon Cooper FTW!"

23-07-2008, 13:33	#3
loki Vodka Martini Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 871	It just shows how screwed the justice system is. Anyoen who committed such a terrible crime should be punished and be made to repay his debt to society. Imprisoning for life or taking it one step further, capital punishment does nothing to redress the balance. Out of interest what job do you do Von ? __________________ PC & Console LAN 9th-11th July

23-07-2008, 13:35	#5
PvtPyle Sofa Boy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wield of the Shire Posts: 701	Why is shooting a copper while he pleaded for his life any different to shooting anybody else Von? You might be familiar with the case of PC Patrick Dunne (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/20/ukguns.rosiecowan) I am friends with one of his nephews and I know he feels that his uncle's murderer should have been tried and convicted the same way as anyone else. As a police officer, he knew that there were certain risks that he'd have to routinely undertake whilst performing his duties...