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Old 15-09-2008, 09:56   #1
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4749183.ece

State censure of sharia to settle civil matters in the UK, this announcement just weeks after a documentary showed that Regent's Park mosque (Britains largest mosque, originally a gift to Muslims who fought in WW2) is being used to preach hatred towards the UK.
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What's the connection between the UK allowing Sharia courts and the fact that documentary showed that a mosque is being used to preach hatred?
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Old 15-09-2008, 10:22   #3
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What's the connection between the UK allowing Sharia courts and the fact that documentary showed that a mosque is being used to preach hatred?
It shows that even the longest standing institution of Islam in the UK has become corrupt, seeking new way to legitimise it within law are bogus given what already exists has been turned into a tool of hatred
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If that WERE the motivation of those who disagree with Islam, it would be a lot easier for people such as yourself to convince yourself to approve. Selective attention is another good one.
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Old 15-09-2008, 11:47   #6
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It shows that even the longest standing institution of Islam in the UK has become corrupt, seeking new way to legitimise it within law are bogus given what already exists has been turned into a tool of hatred
I still fail to see the link.
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Old 15-09-2008, 13:05   #7
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State censure of sharia to settle civil matters in the UK, this announcement just weeks after a documentary showed that Regent's Park mosque (Britains largest mosque, originally a gift to Muslims who fought in WW2) is being used to preach hatred towards the UK.
Have you read the Arbitration Act? That is the law used to allow these "Sharia Courts", the same that allows Jewish Beit Din to rule on Jewish matters. Or would allow you to resolve a dispute by playing a hand of snap if you wish.

They have no special powers, other than those conferred to them by people consenting to be bound by their arbitration, but even then British Law still overrules and you can appeal to the normal courts if the arbitration is contrary to it.

Like the others, I fail to see how the two items in your post are related.
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There are concerns that women who agree to go to tribunal courts are getting worse deals because Islamic law favours men.

Siddiqi said that in a recent inheritance dispute handled by the court in Nuneaton, the estate of a Midlands man was divided between three daughters and two sons.

The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.

In the six cases of domestic violence, Siddiqi said the judges ordered the husbands to take anger management classes and mentoring from community elders. There was no further punishment.

In each case, the women subsequently withdrew the complaints they had lodged with the police and the police stopped their investigations.

Siddiqi said that in the domestic violence cases, the advantage was that marriages were saved and couples given a second chance
If you cant see the relation then you need to think - existing Islamic institution within the UK is corrupt, this is certainly not the time to further embrace it.
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If you cant see the relation then you need to think - existing Islamic institution within the UK is corrupt, this is certainly not the time to further embrace it.
Court =! Mosque.
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Court =! Mosque.
You're going to have to express yourself a bit better than simply stating the obvious.
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