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Old 08-10-2008, 13:59   #1
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I've always been fascinated by the notion of extra terrestrial life, and considering our nearest star is over 4 light years away, I personally think it is silly to think we are alone in the universe.

If you consider there are approximately 200 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy and each of these stars may have a small solar system with say 8 planets and there are approx 140 billion galaxies in visible space which is approx 14 billion light years in each direction and then some unknown massive distance beyond that we we cannot see, and the fact that all the distant galaxies are moving away from us. The chances are actually so astronomically small that we are alone as to be pointless to consider them.

The biggest problem is that we cannot travel at the speed of light and that means without some kind of Star Trek shizzle we will never travel out of our own solar system. Shame.

According to Einstein we can never travel at the speed of light nor over take it. Which is again, a shame. My understanding of the science is VERY ropey, but I think the only way to do it (theoretically of course) would be to literally disappear from one point in the universe and instantaneously appear at another point. It is encouraging that this is how it works in Battlestar Galactica Clearly the writers of Stargate got it all wrong

Anyway, thats my lunch time musing triggered by that article.
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Old 08-10-2008, 14:18   #2
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This thread has a lack of aliens in it.

I shall rectify this.

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Old 08-10-2008, 14:49   #3
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I've always been fascinated by the notion of extra terrestrial life, and considering our nearest star is over 4 light years away, I personally think it is silly to think we are alone in the universe.

If you consider there are approximately 200 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy and each of these stars may have a small solar system with say 8 planets and there are approx 140 billion galaxies in visible space which is approx 14 billion light years in each direction and then some unknown massive distance beyond that we we cannot see, and the fact that all the distant galaxies are moving away from us. The chances are actually so astronomically small that we are alone as to be pointless to consider them.

The biggest problem is that we cannot travel at the speed of light and that means without some kind of Star Trek shizzle we will never travel out of our own solar system. Shame.

According to Einstein we can never travel at the speed of light nor over take it. Which is again, a shame. My understanding of the science is VERY ropey, but I think the only way to do it (theoretically of course) would be to literally disappear from one point in the universe and instantaneously appear at another point. It is encouraging that this is how it works in Battlestar Galactica Clearly the writers of Stargate got it all wrong

Anyway, thats my lunch time musing triggered by that article.

I live in eternal hope that some of the science we put faith in does end up to be disproved. If we take the notion that we may have been visited but we can't make the visit doesn't that say our science is limited or flawed
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Old 08-10-2008, 17:27   #4
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I used to believe that life of some sort could be abundant through the Universe but after watching the excellent documentary series EARTH I now realise what a massive accident it was and how millions of things in the right order needed it to happen.
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I've always been fascinated by the notion of extra terrestrial life, and considering our nearest star is over 4 light years away, I personally think it is silly to think we are alone in the universe.

If you consider there are approximately 200 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy and each of these stars may have a small solar system with say 8 planets and there are approx 140 billion galaxies in visible space which is approx 14 billion light years in each direction and then some unknown massive distance beyond that we we cannot see, and the fact that all the distant galaxies are moving away from us. The chances are actually so astronomically small that we are alone as to be pointless to consider them.

The biggest problem is that we cannot travel at the speed of light and that means without some kind of Star Trek shizzle we will never travel out of our own solar system. Shame.

According to Einstein we can never travel at the speed of light nor over take it. Which is again, a shame. My understanding of the science is VERY ropey, but I think the only way to do it (theoretically of course) would be to literally disappear from one point in the universe and instantaneously appear at another point. It is encouraging that this is how it works in Battlestar Galactica Clearly the writers of Stargate got it all wrong

Anyway, thats my lunch time musing triggered by that article.
Then you make the mountain come to muhammad, at least that's how I see it and how I see it progressing in the far future.

Einstein proved that you cannot go faster than light and if it were possible then time would be massively distorted.

Gravity distorts time as it does with black holes. Will it be possible to harness gravity and distort space time enabling you to travel faster than light without breaking the light barrier ?

I see the universe as being too vast to assume that we are alone and if we are visited as people suggest we have been the the technology needed far exceeds our own.
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Old 08-10-2008, 21:23   #6
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I used to believe that life of some sort could be abundant through the Universe but after watching the excellent documentary series EARTH I now realise what a massive accident it was and how millions of things in the right order needed it to happen.
I agree it was a brilliant series, but it is based on our perception of "life". If you accept that the very bedrock of our understanding of the Universe it still not complete, then anything becomes possible. What if there were substances that are not solid, liquid or gaseous by nature? Or solar systems where meteorological conditions result in a plethora of new elements that we've never encountered before? What if an atom doesn't necessarily only contain protons, neutrons and electrons in another galaxy? Certain subatomic particles such as quarks and electrons come into and go out of existence without any cause - science has witnessed and documented this, but it's too far-fectehd to think it is only possible that it has happened hrere in our microscopically tiny corner of the Milky Way..
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It would be nice to think that we aren't the only "living" creatures in the whole of space, but at the moment I'm not 100% convinced.
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It is encouraging that this is how it works in Battlestar Galactica Clearly the writers of Stargate got it all wrong

Anyway, thats my lunch time musing triggered by that article.

I shall comment when i have decided whether my allegiance is with Apollo or Mitchell
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Don't ruin the story, I'm only on Season 2!
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